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Post by CoachSBU on Sept 12, 2017 21:08:39 GMT -5
Satalin once told me that Rosey was in the bag until the SU visit. I saw him dominate Section V Class C playoffs at the War Memorial. His cousin was Nate Bouie and those Kendall teams were a machine in the mid 70s. Ask CoachSBU who went to Kendall with them. What could have been ... indeed a program changer for both sides ... Kendall won 5 straight sectional titles in those years....the four with the Bouies there and then the year AFTER they graduated....That was probably the most terrific feat of the era there as they won it with a 5'4" guard leading the scoring...Joe Spann....
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Post by West End Stench on Sept 13, 2017 12:23:30 GMT -5
Only on the bannedwagon could a thread about "the New Guys" delve into a topic regarding high school basketball from 40+ years ago.
Anyways: any word on Gueye's injured shoulder? With a big lack of depth at the 5, the sooner he's practicing, the better. Hopefully he can still take part in conditioning.
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Post by bbb on Sept 13, 2017 14:43:30 GMT -5
Satalin once told me that Rosey was in the bag until the SU visit. I saw him dominate Section V Class C playoffs at the War Memorial. His cousin was Nate Bouie and those Kendall teams were a machine in the mid 70s. Ask CoachSBU who went to Kendall with them. What could have been ... indeed a program changer for both sides ... I've never known what the story is on Bouie here. It seems that SU is hated because they "stole" him. But, had he verballed to Bonas or what?
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Post by dadster81 on Sept 13, 2017 16:15:53 GMT -5
Only on the bannedwagon could a thread about "the New Guys" delve into a topic regarding high school basketball from 40+ years ago. It is either HS BB from 40 years ago, or discussing why we should bring back football. You choose.
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Post by Chuck on Sept 14, 2017 9:29:31 GMT -5
Satalin once told me that Rosey was in the bag until the SU visit. I saw him dominate Section V Class C playoffs at the War Memorial. His cousin was Nate Bouie and those Kendall teams were a machine in the mid 70s. Ask CoachSBU who went to Kendall with them. What could have been ... indeed a program changer for both sides ... I've never known what the story is on Bouie here. It seems that SU is hated because they "stole" him. But, had he verballed to Bonas or what? Syracuse was not the villain in Bonnies losing Bouie. -- The villain in Bouie signing with Syracuse was Cliff Warwell. Bonnies and Syracuse were both recruiting Bouie and Warwell, who was from Candor, NY (hour and half from Syracuse). The feeling at the time was both were going to sign with the school closest to their home. Warwell to Syracuse and Bouie with Bona. Unfortunately during their recruiting Warwell and Bouie developed a close friendship. They agreed to sign with the same school. Warwell with the stronger personality chose Syracuse and later that day Bouie announced he was signing with Syracuse. As a freshman Warwell sat at the end of the bench. Warwell transferred from Syracuse after his freshman season. -- Actually the Bonnies would win the last recruiting battle with Syracuse. Mark Jones (currently Bonas 9th all time leading scorer) chose Bonas over Syracuse. -- Syracuse joining the new Big East in 1979 would end the regional recruiting battles with Bonas. Something I've always felt bitter toward Syracuse was them opposing Bonas being invited to join the Big East. I think at the time Syracuse did not want to continue the regional recruiting battles with Bonas. I don't think they realized at the time Syracuse recruiting would go national after they joined the Big East. en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mark_Jones_(basketball,_born_1961)
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Post by dadster81 on Sept 14, 2017 9:52:02 GMT -5
Mark was a good student, a smart guy, besides being a great BB player. The only BB player who could sit in on our poker games on third floor Francis and hold his own. Other players usually lost all their $ in ten hands or so.
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Post by dadster81 on Sept 14, 2017 9:53:46 GMT -5
and West End Stench responds, "now we are discussing poker games from 40 years ago . . . " ![:)](//storage.proboards.com/forum/images/smiley/smiley.png)
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Post by Bonafan71 on Sept 14, 2017 10:16:31 GMT -5
and West End Stench responds, "now we are discussing poker games from 40 years ago . . . " If you're going to discuss great Bonas poker games of yore, you don't need to go back 40 years. I'm sure everyone agrees that the 1986 hold 'em game on 3rd Dev between stinky pete, sketchy dave and mike the Greek lives on in infamy.
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Post by bbb on Sept 14, 2017 16:50:06 GMT -5
I've never known what the story is on Bouie here. It seems that SU is hated because they "stole" him. But, had he verballed to Bonas or what? Syracuse was not the villain in Bonnies losing Bouie. -- The villain in Bouie signing with Syracuse was Cliff Warwell. Bonnies and Syracuse were both recruiting Bouie and Warwell, who was from Candor, NY (hour and half from Syracuse). The feeling at the time was both were going to sign with the school closest to their home. Warwell to Syracuse and Bouie with Bona. Unfortunately during their recruiting Warwell and Bouie developed a close friendship. They agreed to sign with the same school. Warwell with the stronger personality chose Syracuse and later that day Bouie announced he was signing with Syracuse. As a freshman Warwell sat at the end of the bench. Warwell transferred from Syracuse after his freshman season. -- Actually the Bonnies would win the last recruiting battle with Syracuse. Mark Jones (currently Bonas 9th all time leading scorer) chose Bonas over Syracuse. -- Syracuse joining the new Big East in 1979 would end the regional recruiting battles with Bonas. Something I've always felt bitter toward Syracuse was them opposing Bonas being invited to join the Big East. I think at the time Syracuse did not want to continue the regional recruiting battles with Bonas. I don't think they realized at the time Syracuse recruiting would go national after they joined the Big East. en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mark_Jones_(basketball,_born_1961) Thanks for all the great info, Chuck!...........The story I always heard about the Big East was that we would have been in if we agreed to play our home games at the Aud. Is there any truth in that?
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Post by 123Rob on Sept 14, 2017 17:03:38 GMT -5
Mark Jones was a fantastic guard for East High, where he played with Mike Sheehey, then Bona, then a for a cup of coffee with the Nets. When I was just a lad, East came to play my HS and completely destroyed them-well over 100 PTs in a HS game before the 3 pt shot. Plenty of points were Jones with a steal and pass ahead to a leaking Sheehey for a slam. Jones refs HS games in Rochester. He did either the sectional AAA semi or final this past March. I always lament that we don't have a former player or someone in the athletic dept keeping tabs on former Bonnies across the decades and keeping them closer to the program. The Schmidt era players seem to keep the roots intact. The Sanders reconnection and honoring of the '77 team was a great start. It would be nice to have as many years present in a few years when the Final Four team marks its 50th.
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Post by ddsmugs on Sept 14, 2017 19:50:11 GMT -5
Keep falling into the trap of seeing more pages....hoping to get info of current players. Keeping the card playing theme going do they still play "Euchre" at Bonas ?
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Post by fortytwo on Sept 14, 2017 23:09:23 GMT -5
How about the all night Pinochle games in Rob Fal lobby with Mick Callahan, Jimmy Borer and Tim Bergan. Not much time for classes back in 1970. Pinochle still part of my life in the Florida retirement community.
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Post by kcSBU03 on Sept 15, 2017 7:54:06 GMT -5
Mark Jones was a fantastic guard for East High, where he played with Mike Sheehey, then Bona, then a for a cup of coffee with the Nets. When I was just a lad, East came to play my HS and completely destroyed them-well over 100 PTs in a HS game before the 3 pt shot. Plenty of points were Jones with a steal and pass ahead to a leaking Sheehey for a slam. Jones refs HS games in Rochester. He did either the sectional AAA semi or final this past March. I always lament that we don't have a former player or someone in the athletic dept keeping tabs on former Bonnies across the decades and keeping them closer to the program. The Schmidt era players seem to keep the roots intact. The Sanders reconnection and honoring of the '77 team was a great start. It would be nice to have as many years present in a few years when the Final Four team marks its 50th. Apologies for further derailing this topic, I have refereed with Mark a few times. He is a great ref and very knowledgeable on the game, as you would probably expect. He has a lot of great basketball stories, that is for sure and we have a had a couple of fun car rides. He is the one who convinced me that NBA officiating is actually good. As a ref, I hate how they never call travels and illegal screens...etc. One night on our way to the game we talked about it and he was saying how the NBA is an entertainment product and the fans dont want to see that. In high school games, people want to see those calls but not at that level. I had never thought about it that way before.
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Post by bbb on Sept 15, 2017 18:25:53 GMT -5
Mark Jones was a fantastic guard for East High, where he played with Mike Sheehey, then Bona, then a for a cup of coffee with the Nets. When I was just a lad, East came to play my HS and completely destroyed them-well over 100 PTs in a HS game before the 3 pt shot. Plenty of points were Jones with a steal and pass ahead to a leaking Sheehey for a slam. Jones refs HS games in Rochester. He did either the sectional AAA semi or final this past March. I always lament that we don't have a former player or someone in the athletic dept keeping tabs on former Bonnies across the decades and keeping them closer to the program. The Schmidt era players seem to keep the roots intact. The Sanders reconnection and honoring of the '77 team was a great start. It would be nice to have as many years present in a few years when the Final Four team marks its 50th. Apologies for further derailing this topic, I have refereed with Mark a few times. He is a great ref and very knowledgeable on the game, as you would probably expect. He has a lot of great basketball stories, that is for sure and we have a had a couple of fun car rides. He is the one who convinced me that NBA officiating is actually good. As a ref, I hate how they never call travels and illegal screens...etc. One night on our way to the game we talked about it and he was saying how the NBA is an entertainment product and the fans dont want to see that. In high school games, people want to see those calls but not at that level. I had never thought about it that way before. I just think they should then change the wording of the rules. It's stupid to have rules you don't enforce........I haven't seen palming enfoced in decades - and then Marcus got called for it in a scramble at the end of the game a few years ago (VCU on the road?) I'm like great time to go by the book!
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Post by Chuck on Sept 29, 2017 2:59:32 GMT -5
Watched the Bonnies pickup game earlier this week in the RC. -- Courtney and Ndene did not play. Courtney did not have a boot. He spent the entire time on a bike. Most of the time he was on a stationary bike, but last 15-20 minutes Courtney was riding a regular bike on the court, while the game was taking place. It was strange to see. He seemed to walk fine, without a limp. Ndene spent most of the time watching game from a chair. -- Did not see Chef or Izaiah.
Game was between Mostly Shirts against Mostly Skins. Mostly Shirts played more half court offense, while Mostly Skins played a lot more fast break. It appeared Mostly Skins won, but a lot of this can be attributed to how hard Mostly Skins played with all their uncontested fast break layups. -- Mostly Shirts had Jay, Matt, LaDarien, Amadi and a walk on. -- Mostly Skins had Jalen, Idris, Josh, Nelson and a walk on.
As for individual players. -- BonaBob was correct about Schmidt's comment "singled out LaDarien as being much improved and looks for him to play a big role." I was surprised to see a bigger LaDarien. He is still thin, but now LaDarien does not stand out as being really skinny. LaDarien hit a couple 15 foot jump shots and battled on the boards. In the past he always looked overwhelmed in these pickup games, but not so this night. -- Amadi had a nice 15 foot jumper and looks a lot quicker with him being in a lot better shape. There were a few times Amadi tried to score in the paint, but Josh was their to reject his shot. Fans will need a program to identify Amadi this year. He is that much slimmer. -- Josh made just one 3, but it was the only one he attempted. His Mostly Skins team's fast break offense did not give Josh many opportunities to shoot. Josh also blocked LaDarien shots in the paint. From what I saw Josh added muscle, is going to help him with interior defense. I'll predict Josh will lead the team in blocks. -- At times Jalen Poyser put on a show with his ball handling skills. Without a doubt he is the best ball handler on the team. Best vertical is between Jalen and Chef. It is close, but I think I'll give it to Chef. Jalen finished 2nd to Idris with uncontested dunks. -- Jay and Matt looked in mid season form. Jay hit a few long ones and had some nice assists. At the beginning Matt was red hot, but all of a sudden he stopped shooting. -- Idris was easily the leading scorer, which is attributed to all of the fast break dunks. He scored on a few drives and had one 3, which he made. He struggled some with his stroke. As always Idris showed the most hustle of anyone on the court. -- Nelson definitely made the longest shot of the night. Easily a NBA 3. Nelson just seems a lot more mature. He had some nice drives to the basket.
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