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Post by Chuck on May 7, 2020 11:44:13 GMT -5
Attached is JP's article "Mungar recalls memories of playing with Rodman." Following is from article -- Barry Mungar was among the best players on the floor. On Day 1 at the Portsmouth Invitational, Mungar’s name was the second one listed in the scoring column from that day — April 2, 1986. -- Only player to truly overshadow him that afternoon? The name just below Mungar’s in that first column: Dennis Rodman. Mungar had met the quiet 6-foot-6 forward a day earlier, when the two were randomly placed on the same team. He’d never heard of Rodman, “knew nothing about him.”No one did. After all, this was a guy who’d played mostly in anonymity at NAIA Southeastern Oklahoma State. But they were about to. -- RODMAN HAS become something of a headline again, one of the central figures in the ongoing, and fascinating, docuseries “The Last Dance.” He was the star of Episode 3. -- In the early 90s, Mungar, as one of the country’s most prominent players at the time, was asked to throw up the ceremonial jump ball at an NBA exhibition game in his hometown of Hamilton, Ontario. “Dennis walks out and lines up at the circle, and I said, ‘Hey, Dennis, you don’t remember me, do you?’” Mungar recalled. “I said, ‘Barry Mungar, we played together in Portsmouth in the NBA camp.’ “‘Oh my goodness, Barry, how are you?!’ He came over and he kind of gave me a little bit of a hug, he lined up and that was it. I haven’t spoken to him or seen him since.” www.oleantimesherald.com/olean/mungar-recalls-memories-of-playing-with-rodman/article_0909fa84-ccf1-5754-b44d-7cf03590b5dd.html |
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Post by Chuck on May 7, 2020 12:18:00 GMT -5
There is a local connection to Dennis Rodman. His basketball skills were first discovered by Lonn Reisman, who was born and raised in Cuba. In attached video of Rodman's speech, Reisman was the first person Rodman thanked during his enshrinement in the Basketball Hall of Fame. In attached article from New York Times "Dennis Rodman’s College Coach Recalls Recruiting Him Over H-O-R-S-E" Lonn Reisman talks about recruiting Rodman. Following is from the article -- The telephone calls from reporters and television producers are more sporadic now. But Lonn Reisman still hears from people who want to know more about Dennis Rodman, and that has been the case again thanks to “The Last Dance,” ESPN’s 10-part documentary series on Michael Jordan’s final season with the Chicago Bulls. -- In 1982, Reisman was an assistant coach at Southeastern Oklahoma State, an N.A.I.A. program in Durant, Okla., when he heard about a lanky forward who was demolishing opponents for Cooke County College. Reisman made the drive south to take in a practice, and that was when he saw Rodman for the first time. -- A few weeks later, Reisman returned to Cooke County to watch Rodman play in a game Rodman was nowhere to be found. Reisman was informed that Rodman had left school and returned home to Dallas. -- Reisman reached Rodman’s mother, Shirley, who invited him to Dallas. But when Reisman showed up at their apartment, Rodman refused to leave his bedroom. Reisman kept knocking and waiting, knocking and waiting. It must have become evident to Rodman that this guy was not going to leave him alone. “He opened the door, and I don’t know what it was, but we just had an instant connection,” Reisman said. “You have that with some recruits.” -- That same afternoon, Reisman left to head back to Southeastern Oklahoma State — with Rodman riding shotgun. They wound up playing H-O-R-S-E in the school gymnasium, Reisman said, then sat together in the bleachers for a quiet conversation. Reisman told Rodman that he had a tremendous amount of talent. “Do you really think so?” Reisman recalled Rodman asking him. www.youtube.com/watch?v=uwbI15Ucl8swww.nytimes.com/2020/04/27/sports/basketball/last-dance-dennis-rodman-bulls.htmlen.wikipedia.org/wiki/Lonn_Reisman |
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Post by kcSBU03 on May 7, 2020 14:22:30 GMT -5
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Post by fjs64 on May 8, 2020 7:31:24 GMT -5
I posted the link KC a few hours after you, having not seen your post. I put it in a separate thread as i felt it was important enough to have focus And discussion as Mark talked about how and why he does certain things. I can take mine down if you would like. |
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Post by Chuck on May 9, 2020 13:08:42 GMT -5
Attached is JP's article "Picking the four best Bona players — by decade." Editor’s note: This is the first in a seven-part weekly series in which the Times Herald will unveil its “Mount Rushmore” of St. Bonaventure men’s basketball — that is, the best four players — with the caveat of going decade by decade. Today: The 1950s 4 players chosen for the 50s Mount Rushmore. Ken Fairfield, Bill Kenville, Ken Murray and Bob Sassone. These 4 players received "The Case" why they were chosen. Honorable mention - Mal Duffy, Brendan McCann, and Larry Weise. www.oleantimesherald.com/olean/picking-the-four-best-bona-players-by-decade/article_2f7591ed-34c1-5f62-98ba-2be6f56d4bab.html |
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Post by Chuck on May 9, 2020 13:14:56 GMT -5
I'm surprised Mal Duffy didn't make it on Olean Times Herald Mount Rushmore team of the 50s. JP said Ken Murray was an easy choice, well Mal Duffy should also be an easy and obvious choice. Since Mal was an honorable mention choice, he did not receive "The Case" to why he was chosen. Here are my reasons why he belongs on Bonas Mount Rushmore of the 50s. The Case for Mal Duffy -- 2nd Bonnie to score 1,000 points. Ken Murray was the 1st playing 3 years prior to Duffy. Murray also had the advantage of playing 4 years, while Duffy and Ken Fairfield another 1,000 point scorer from the 50's only played 3 years. -- His 19.8 ppg is 8th on Bonnies all time list for scoring average. Except for Glenn Price, everyone ahead of Duffy has their jersey hanging from the rafters of Reilly Center. -- Twice set Bonnies all time scoring record for most points in a game. In 1953 he broke the record with 36 points in a game. A year later Duffy breaks his own record scoring 37. -- Set record for most points scored in a season with 507 points in 1955. -- Selected as an Honorable Mention All American for his senior year. Check out the attached video of Mal Duffy. He was a long distance shooter, especially for the 50s. A couple of his shots were equal to Jay Adam's shot next to the logo on Bob Lanier Court. www.youtube.com/watch?v=CPyC4--3prggobonnies.sbu.edu/fan_zone/Images/Hall_of_Fame_Pdf/Duffy-_Malachy.pdf |
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Post by ohs73 on May 9, 2020 15:54:04 GMT -5
Thanks, Chuck. Duffy's range was amazing, set, fire, boom! Loved that old Aud footage.
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Post by portpasses on May 10, 2020 10:01:35 GMT -5
I'm surprised Mal Duffy didn't make it on Olean Times Herald Mount Rushmore team of the 50s. JP said Ken Murray was an easy choice, well Mal Duffy should also be an easy and obvious choice. Since Mal was an honorable mention choice, he did not receive "The Case" to why he was chosen. Here are my reasons why he belongs on Bonas Mount Rushmore of the 50s. The Case for Mal Duffy -- 2nd Bonnie to score 1,000 points. Ken Murray was the 1st playing 3 years prior to Duffy. Murray also had the advantage of playing 4 years, while Duffy and Ken Fairfield another 1,000 point scorer from the 50's only played 3 years. -- His 19.8 ppg is 8th on Bonnies all time list for scoring average. Except for Glenn Price, everyone ahead of Duffy has their jersey hanging from the rafters of Reilly Center. -- Twice set Bonnies all time scoring record for most points in a game. In 1953 he broke the record with 36 points in a game. A year later Duffy breaks his own record scoring 37. -- Set record for most points scored in a season with 507 points in 1955. -- Selected as an Honorable Mention All American for his senior year. Check out the attached video of Mal Duffy. He was a long distance shooter, especially for the 50s. A couple of his shots were equal to Jay Adam's shot next to the logo on Bob Lanier Court. www.youtube.com/watch?v=CPyC4--3prggobonnies.sbu.edu/fan_zone/Images/Hall_of_Fame_Pdf/Duffy-_Malachy.pdfOne of JP's outlined criteria was having played in "one or more postseasons". Unfortunately, the Bonnies went 11-11, 12-11 and 13-10 in Duffy's three seasons. |
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Post by ohs73 on May 10, 2020 11:12:30 GMT -5
Doesn't seem quite fair here. Duffy's stats and honors are worthy of consideration.
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Post by Chuck on May 10, 2020 19:43:49 GMT -5
One of JP's outlined criteria was having played in "one or more postseasons". Unfortunately, the Bonnies went 11-11, 12-11 and 13-10 in Duffy's three seasons. Above is a lousy criteria. Schmidt in his recent interview talked about Bonnies winning the A-10 Championship. Schmidt said it could of came to an end with loss to UMass in the first game of A-10 Tournament. Schmidt mentioned it was a difficult win against UMass. If Bonnies lost this game their record would have been 18-12 and most likely would have missed out on NIT. Andrew then would have been excluded, because of above criteria. Or how about Glenn Price, who is 5th on Bonas all time scoring average list at 20.8 ppg. The 4 players ahead of Price (Lanier, Stith, Crawford and Butler) all have their jerseys hanging from RC's rafters. Using above criteria Price would be excluded, because he did not play in a postseason game in his career. Without a doubt Glenn Price should be on the Mount Rushmore team of the 70s. Just like Mal Duffy should be on Mount Rushmore team of the 50s. d2o2figo6ddd0g.cloudfront.net/t/i/di4ncqy9z2nmvb/MBBrecordbook_1-27.pdf |
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Post by portpasses on May 11, 2020 6:19:40 GMT -5
One of JP's outlined criteria was having played in "one or more postseasons". Unfortunately, the Bonnies went 11-11, 12-11 and 13-10 in Duffy's three seasons. Above is a lousy criteria. Schmidt in his recent interview talked about Bonnies winning the A-10 Championship. Schmidt said it could of came to an end with loss to UMass in the first game of A-10 Tournament. Schmidt mentioned it was a difficult win against UMass. If Bonnies lost this game their record would have been 18-12 and most likely would have missed out on NIT. Andrew then would have been excluded, because of above criteria. Or how about Glenn Price, who is 5th on Bonas all time scoring average list at 20.8 ppg. The 4 players ahead of Price (Lanier, Stith, Crawford and Butler) all have their jerseys hanging from RC's rafters. Using above criteria Price would be excluded, because he did not play in a postseason game in his career. Without a doubt Glenn Price should be on the Mount Rushmore team of the 70s. Just like Mal Duffy should be on Mount Rushmore team of the 50s. d2o2figo6ddd0g.cloudfront.net/t/i/di4ncqy9z2nmvb/MBBrecordbook_1-27.pdf Sorry, you questioned why Duffy was excluded, just pointing out what he cited as his criteria... Not saying I disagree. But I'm sure that's the point of running these articles, to get some conversation started, and probably some hope of selling more newspapers. |
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Post by res on May 11, 2020 8:05:52 GMT -5
Exactly, port. It's just a little exercise to pass the time during the quarantine. I'm not sure it's worth getting too steamed about. And it's certainly more interesting than ESPN's recent ranking of the top 74 basketball shoes of all-time.
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Post by Chuck on May 11, 2020 10:08:12 GMT -5
Port my post was not intended do be a criticism of you. I was just pointing out how JP's criteria is flawed. I thank you for pointing out this criteria, because I missed it the first time I read the article.
I'm very thankful for JP's article. I share them on the Bandwagon to encourage discussions about Bonnie basketball. Thank you Port for responding.
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Post by Chuck on May 12, 2020 9:04:37 GMT -5
Attached is Local Notes from OTH "Kenney discusses Bonnies, Brooklyn and bright future." Following is from article. -- Within a matter of minutes, almost every major conference had canceled its postseason event due to concerns over the COVID-19 pandemic. By the time he’d gotten off the elevator, a commotion within his own league had begun to occur. And when he looked into some of his players’ eyes, he knew: The A-10 had no choice but to be next. -- “How it all went down, it was crazy,” Kenney said. “(Coach Mark) Schmidt’s asking me, ‘Why are we even doing this?’ And I’m sitting there trying to give him an answer, and I didn’t have one. -- “Then Osun grabbed me and said, ‘I’m scared,’ and I’m like, alright. I said, ‘Let me go handle this, we’ve got to put an end to this; this is silly.’ Cooler heads prevailed, and we did the right thing.” -- He described last winter as a “tale of three seasons”: The beginning, when Bona was down two starters due to injury; the middle, when it got healthy, and the end — the conference campaign. And though Bona, for a second-straight year, got off to a nightmarish start due to those injuries, he was confident that Schmidt’s team would turn its season around, the same way it did in 2018-19. -- “What people didn’t realize was … obviously, they knew Osun being out (was problematic), but they didn’t realize what Jaren (English, who missed the first five games with a broken hand) brought to the table. And I think that was important, that we knew what he was going to bring. -- Along the way, they endeared themselves to the Bona faithful, leading to an average home attendance, Kenney said, of over 4,300 fans — the highest in the Reilly Center since 2002. www.oleantimesherald.com/olean/kenney-discusses-bonnies-brooklyn-and-bright-future/article_f611f183-d685-5041-a456-07fd43da3cb8.html |
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Post by Chuck on May 12, 2020 9:45:04 GMT -5
Kenney said “what people didn’t realize was what Jaren (English, who missed the first five games with a broken hand) brought to the table. And I think that was important, that we knew what he was going to bring."
Above statement is so intriguing.
-- Bona was Jaren's only D-1 scholarship offer. I find it amazing the staff knew "what he was going to bring."
-- Bona being his only D-I offer is not surprising when you consider Jaren was just the 3rd leading scorer on his JUCO team at 12.0 ppg.
-- Is this a first for a JUCO in Bonnie history? Jaren's 13.2 ppg scoring average during conference games at Bona is higher than his 12.0 ppg average at Ranger.
-- Schmidt and his staff has brought in other players who received 1 or 2 DI offers, such as Dion, Youssou, Denzel and etc. None had the immediate impact of Jaren, who spent much of conference games as the leading scorer and finished 2nd to Kyle.
Without a doubt, Jaren is the most surprising Bonnie recruit I can think of. Tim Kenney is correct, we "didn’t realize what Jaren brought to the table."
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