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Post by thegambler on May 16, 2019 16:13:30 GMT -5
Sister shit the bed it seems. I understand this is a “sports message board”, but considering the subject of your post, perhaps you could figure out a way to express your opinion while still showing some respect. agreed--this is incredibly tacky. Happy for bonas enrollment embarrassed for the crassness of these messages. |
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Post by Bona84 on May 16, 2019 17:17:46 GMT -5
On the enrollment topic, a certain poster also consistently fails to acknowledge that the turnaround actually started during Sister Margaret’s administration. But, that fact doesn’t fit his narrative. That’s no knock on the current administration, but let’s also give credit where it is due to the prior administration.
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Post by Cassian on May 16, 2019 17:19:09 GMT -5
Tacky but correct - could have been said better. She had no clue and we picked a PC choice rather than the best choice
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Post by bonaman2013 on May 16, 2019 17:39:31 GMT -5
Sister Margaret restored credibility to SBU’s admission standards. At one point we were accepting nearly 90% of applicants, which obviously is not a recipe for success.
That number is now down to 65%, which is better than most similar Catholic schools.
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Post by bbb on May 16, 2019 18:20:01 GMT -5
What were we say 5 years ago when it was kind of a low point? New classes were coming in under the 400 mark, 380/390ish.. being back up to 500+ is great. 2015 the undergraduate enrollment was in the 1,500 range. SBU website has it at 1,812 in 2018. www.sbu.edu/about-sbu/sbu-factsstill lots of work to do but the climb is encouraging Thanks! |
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Post by fan4ever on May 16, 2019 18:22:10 GMT -5
OK....I'll rephrase along the lines of what Dr. D purportedly said.....that SBU was constantly taxiing down the runway but never actually taking off. SBU is soaring under Dr. D's able leadership.
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Post by thegambler on May 16, 2019 18:42:12 GMT -5
a few quick questions for the Bona insiders.
1. What is the high water mark for Bonas enrollment?
2. Are alumni donations going up?
3. How does our financial shape compare to other similar schools?
4. How is Bonas long term health?---like 30 years etc going forward
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Post by sbuwins on May 16, 2019 20:12:57 GMT -5
Sr. Margaret hires Bernie Valentine in 2015
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Post by sbuwins on May 16, 2019 20:13:55 GMT -5
Sorry. Sr Margaret hired Bernie Valento in 2015.
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Post by firstdev on May 17, 2019 7:24:12 GMT -5
Tacky but correct - could have been said better. She had no clue and we picked a PC choice rather than the best choice So true, that was a politically correct team from Ft. Duquesne on steroids, yes remember the late night beer raids on dorm rooms. Or the banning of Indian hear gear on campus. Or the brillant proposal to build a mosque on campus. Is it any wonder that enrollment dropped like a stone under her watch? Do you think? |
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Post by firstdev on May 17, 2019 7:28:06 GMT -5
Sister Margaret restored credibility to SBU’s admission standards. At one point we were accepting nearly 90% of applicants, which obviously is not a recipe for success. That number is now down to 65%, which is better than most similar Catholic schools. Totally irrelevant stat........all that matters in the great scheme of this university is that we have a steady stream of good character students in the seats in our classrooms, the acceptance rate is completely meaningless if you only have 345 frosh in a class. The now saintly former president dropped the ball badly, that is for sure. She was completely overrated as a president. |
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Post by tastylicks on May 17, 2019 7:59:36 GMT -5
Sister Margaret restored credibility to SBU’s admission standards. At one point we were accepting nearly 90% of applicants, which obviously is not a recipe for success. That number is now down to 65%, which is better than most similar Catholic schools. Totally irrelevant stat........all that matters in the great scheme of this university is that we have a steady stream of good character students in the seats in our classrooms, the acceptance rate is completely meaningless if you only have 345 frosh in a class. The now saintly former president dropped the ball badly, that is for sure. She was completely overrated as a president. admissions acceptance rate is absolutely NOT an irrelevant stat. Its an important one |
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Post by efsboca on May 17, 2019 8:24:54 GMT -5
Totally irrelevant stat........all that matters in the great scheme of this university is that we have a steady stream of good character students in the seats in our classrooms, the acceptance rate is completely meaningless if you only have 345 frosh in a class. The now saintly former president dropped the ball badly, that is for sure. She was completely overrated as a president. admissions acceptance rate is absolutely NOT an irrelevant stat. Its an important one Definitely not an irrelevant stat, as we were a joke when we were accepting that many applicants. That is the very definition of a safety school and we weren't even charging the tuition of a true safety school. At the same time, you can't bankrupt the kingdom while fixing the walls. While trying to restore the acceptance rates, they needed to also figure out how to get more qualified students to apply. They went about the one without looking at the impact of it which leads me to believe it was not a matter of incompetance or malfeasance, but of one lacking experience in the area. Sister did a number of good things for the school, but admissions was not her strong suit. |
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Post by ceharv on May 17, 2019 8:32:45 GMT -5
Why the dis of the Ss. Margaret admin group? Improvements like this are never instantaneous; what we are seeing now is the result of the previous admin recognizing a problem and putting in a long-term plan to improve, including hiring the right people. The seeds of success were planted years ago, just like the poor numbers of prior years were primarily the result of the poor work of the prior administration, yes, including the hugely negative publicity of you-know-what, which impacted the entire university, not just the hoops program. I am hopeful and confident the current group in Hopkins will continue and improve upon the recent success, but the seeds of this success go back to the prior admin.
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Post by Chuck on May 17, 2019 8:53:26 GMT -5
On the enrollment topic, the turnaround actually started during Sister Margaret’s administration. Above statement is truthful, but it is extremely misleading. -- The turnaround started with the hiring of Bernie Valento, which occurred during Sister Margaret's last year as president. -- Bernie Valento deserves the credit for the turnaround in enrollment and not Sister Margaret. Enrollment under Sister Margaret declined until hiring of Bernie Valento. -- In attached May 13, 2015 article "St. Bonaventure Says Cost Cutting Is Sign of Times, Not Cause For Alarm" Sister Margaret herself acknowledges Bonas' declining enrollment "we aren't growing revenues as fast because enrollment is being challenged because of the declining demographics," Carney said. -- In attached BV article "Enrollment figures declining for 2014-15" enrollment was at it's highest the year prior to Sister Margaret. Since Sister Margaret became president "student population was down 19.6 percent from 10 years ago" which is when Sister Margaret became president. At the time, Sister Margaret was a much needed president. -- I agree Sister Margaret becoming Bonas' president happened, because it was politically correct, but it was something desperately needed. Sister Margaret's impeccable integrity was critical in order for Bona to move forward from the Wickenheiser scandal. Looking back is not important. What is important is the future looks bright with Dr. Dennis DePerro and Bernie Valento. spectrumlocalnews.com/nys/jamestown/news/2015/05/12/st--bonaventure-struggleswww.thebvnewspaper.com/2014/09/18/enrollment-figures-declining-for-2014-15/ |
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