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Post by Sipowicz on Mar 6, 2020 7:47:16 GMT -5
They have a thread on their board: "Why I Hate St. B". Not really too bad though, despite some passe "welder" references.
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Post by Jive36 on Mar 6, 2020 8:18:23 GMT -5
I am contractually obligated to share this video before any SLU game. RIP Majerus
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Post by ceharv on Mar 6, 2020 8:40:03 GMT -5
Jive - happy to see you met your obligation. I was going to ask someone to post this, happy to see I don’t need to. This is a classic and even though Majeris has been gone so long now that some here probably don’t even know who he was, it’s still worth a look and should stay as a yearly event whenever the SLU game is on deck.Thanks.
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Post by bub on Mar 6, 2020 9:09:56 GMT -5
They have a thread on their board: "Why I Hate St. B". Not really too bad though, despite some passe "welder" references. Do they have a thread on their board that says we are 9-1 vs St Louis in the last ten games played?
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Post by tastylicks on Mar 6, 2020 9:38:23 GMT -5
They have a thread on their board: "Why I Hate St. B". Not really too bad though, despite some passe "welder" references. Do they have a thread on their board that says we are 9-1 vs St Louis in the last ten games played? that "1" really hurt though
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Post by fjs64 on Mar 6, 2020 12:59:22 GMT -5
I am contractually obligated to share this video before any SLU game. RIP Majerus Thanks for the memory....he was quite a coach...may he RIP. Hey Jive, you going to post something on how the Bonnies need to play the Billikins. Your strategies are usually very good. Most times we read that to win, you need to score more points that your opponent, well here is my corralary, and it fits this game, you have to give up less points than the opponent.
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Mar 6, 2020 13:39:06 GMT -5
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Post by bartmitchell on Mar 6, 2020 13:39:06 GMT -5
FEWER points fjs. Not “ less than.”
Jeez.... You had one job Frank. One.
(hope you’ve got your sense of humor today Frank. Or are to tired to come to ny on a Friday to beat me up.)
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Post by Jive36 on Mar 6, 2020 13:43:25 GMT -5
Hey Jive, you going to post something on how the Bonnies need to play the Billikins. Your strategies are usually very good. Most times we read that to win, you need to score more points that your opponent, well here is my corralary, and it fits this game, you have to give up less points than the opponent. How does 1200+ words sound as a preview? Mini Rivalry? This is a budding rivalry for the Bonnies due mostly to the A10 schedule makers. The last 3 seasons the SLU game has been the final game of the regular season and last year the rematch happened in the A10 final. Each of those regular season games a spot for the double bye has been on the line. In 2018 the Bonnies had the bye locked up but SLU could have gotten into a tie with SJU had they won the final game. Last year, 2019, was similar to this year in the winner had poll position on getting the double bye. And this year the Bonnies are in win and you’re in territory while SLU needs to win and the Friday games to break in their favor. SLU Lineup/Key matchups Its that time we all overreact to the A10 awards buzz and for SLU, Goodwin and French seem to be locks to make an all A10 team. Goodwin might have lost his first team status to a surging UMass team lead by Tre Mitchell. But the real question is where does Javonte Perkins belong? I had him in a tight race with Ibi Watson, but over the last half of February Perkins has pulled way ahead and might have replaced French as SLU’s best chance to get a second all conference player. Does Perkins play too many minutes to be 6th man of the year? He hasn’t started a game yet this season but has become the straw that stirs the SLU drink. French and Goodwin will get theirs in the paint and off offensive rebounds, but Perkins adds some shooting and can take over games. SLU starts a jumbo package – Whenever Goodwin, French and Bell are on the floor together, combined weight of those three according to Kenpom is 715lbs hence jumbo package. That group almost outweighs our entire starting lineup. That is not to say these guys are slow plodding overweight guys (Bell maybe), quite the opposite they are dudes that must live in the weight room. I don’t know how we matchup with that lineup. Winston will get eaten alive by either Bell or French in the post. I think you have to put OO on Bell to try to prevent foul trouble. Maybe we go zone against the jumbo package to keep help close by anytime French or Bell get it in the paint. When Perkins comes in that usually means French is moved to the 5 and Bell sits. I think against this line up I would want to put Welch on Perkins and Winston/Bobby on Goodwin. Perkins would have a small height advantage but Welch isn’t afraid of guys that size. A lineup with Perkins and Jacobs or Weaver probably has enough shooting that zone would give SLU open shots. Event though SLU isn’t a great shooting team the way this season is going those shots will be dropping Saturday night. Hack-a-Hasahn French is only shooting 30% from the charity stripe in conference play. I honestly think the biggest error Schmidt has ever made with Bonas is not going to Hack-a-Hasahn earlier in the title game last year. I would go to this strategy anytime we are SLU is in the bonus and they go on a run or if we are down multiple possessions with under 5 to play. I called it Hack-a-Hasahn but Goodwin is only a 57% free throw shooter in conference play, so we can also go after him. However, Goodwin has games where he is locked in from the line. SLU has learned to counter this by being very aggressive getting offensive boards off missed free throws. Because both French and Goodwin are poor shooters and they are such key players for SLU they can’t sub both out at the end of games or just avoid passing them the ball because then you are playing 3 on 5. SLU does go offense defense with French some at the end of games to get him out in obvious intentional foul situations which is why I would go to the strategy early and often. Bonnies on the ball SLU is a tough team. They want to play 90s era Knicks vs Pacers basketball, every cutter is getting bumped, every rebound is contested, every drive to the basket ends with someone on the floor. They dare the refs to call every foul kind of like the Seahawks Legion of Boom defense. SLU struggles with teams that match their physicality. OO, and Welch are going to have to be ready to work for every rebound. SLU cuts off passing lanes, not necessarily to force turnovers but to force you into playing 1v1 or 2v2. Our offense works best when we are running a pick and roll on one side swinging it to the other to setup a secondary or tertiary action. By playing in the passing lanes SLU will try to force us into only using one side of the floor. LaSalle had success with that last week. We played into LaSalle’s hands by trying to play through the post so much. In theory we had a huge advantage with OO inside however they sagged off all the guards and were quick to recover. I don’t expect that we will try to play through the low post very much tomorrow with Bell and French guarding the paint. I will be intrigued to see who from SLU picks up Lofton. Collins is only a freshman and has been in foul trouble often in league play. He has fouled out of 3 games and gotten to 4 fouls in 5 others. Whoever he is on needs to be in attack mode and hopefully can get us to the bonus or to the line for easy points. SLU points of offensive boards. I’m unlikely to actually do the research on this one but my suspicion is you have to keep SLU from rebounding more than 30% of their own misses to have a chance to beat them. Dayton and Duquesne are the only teams in conference play that survived SLU getting over 30% of their own misses. In the Duquesne game SLU only made 38% from the line on 18 trips. The Dayton game was the first meeting where SLU forced overtime. Keeping SLU under 30% on the offensive glass does not guarantee a victory but letting them get over 30% almost certainly spells doom for the Bonnies. Ikpeze When I was reminiscing on some of Ikpeze’s best moments as a Bonnie, I realized that the 10 minutes he gave us vs SLU in the championship were huge. He also gave us 14 big minutes in the last game of the regular season vs SLU. He didn’t fill up the box score like OO does but he is a big body that can bang with French and Bell. In 51 minutes against SLU last year OO picked up 8 fouls, and really most of those fouls were in the first 40 minutes and then he played passively down the stretch of the champ game to avoid further foul trouble. I think OO has gotten better at avoiding foul trouble this year but I still expect this to be a matchup he struggles with and we will need another solid inning eating performance by Ikpeze. (Also if we go Hack-a-Hasahn we will need those 5 extra fouls).
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Post by tastylicks on Mar 6, 2020 13:53:10 GMT -5
"Hack-a-Hasahn" is a great plan, we should've used that in the A10 title game. Last year he was 34% from the stripe and we didn't put him on the line even once in that title game this year he is 32%. If the game is close down the stretch, put him on the line EDIT - I see you mentioned the title game, sorry good post
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Post by ohs73 on Mar 6, 2020 16:15:13 GMT -5
This would be quite a feat if Bona can beat this rugged SLU club on the road.
Must play "A" game, BOARD and knock down whatever open looks they get.
That bloody loss to LaSalle, ugh.
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Post by homersbu on Mar 6, 2020 17:04:29 GMT -5
First of all, hope you're recovering nicely, OHS73. Secondly? I'm pretty sure beating LaSalle wouldn't have mattered.
Yes, we'd now be 12-5 instead of 11-6, but losing to Saint Louis would still knock us out of the top 4. We'd lose a two-way tiebreaker with Saint Louis on head to head, and a three-way tiebreaker with Saint Louis and the Dukes if they win tonight because Dukes swept Saint Louis.
The good news? If Dukes win tonight, Saint Louis is locked out of the double-bye so maybe that will impact their motivation tomorrow night ever so slightly, although they are now appearing on some bubbles so that's doubtful.
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Post by bonawolf02 on Mar 6, 2020 19:27:36 GMT -5
First of all, hope you're recovering nicely, OHS73. Secondly? I'm pretty sure beating LaSalle wouldn't have mattered. Yes, we'd now be 12-5 instead of 11-6, but losing to Saint Louis would still knock us out of the top 4. We'd lose a two-way tiebreaker with Saint Louis on head to head, and a three-way tiebreaker with Saint Louis and the Dukes if they win tonight because Dukes swept Saint Louis. The good news? If Dukes win tonight, Saint Louis is locked out of the double-bye so maybe that will impact their motivation tomorrow night ever so slightly, although they are now appearing on some bubbles so that's doubtful. The only way the Lasalle loss hurts is if Dukes beat Spidey. A Spidey loss would put it at 13-5....which would make Bonnies final A10 record with a win tomorrow, without a Lasalle blunder, at the same 13-5...AND own the Tie-breaker vs. Spidey - resulting in a 3 seed. Let's win a big one tomorrow night. Go Bonas!
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Post by wgt on Mar 6, 2020 21:56:04 GMT -5
Dukes lost 73-62 to the Spiders.
St Louis is favored by 5.5.
Hard to add anything to Jive36's fine analysis.
St Louis is the worst FT shooters in the conference (58%). Yet in spite of us hitting 71% they have scored 29 pts from the stripe due to their MANY trips to the line. They have taken 388 FTs to our 276.
They are #4 Trey %(.342) to our #3 (.343). But they take few treys relying on their superiority in the paint.
Goodwin #1 Rebs (10.4) and FRENCH #3 rebs (10.1) can create a fouling problem as we contend with their inside size, strength and speed.
How the refs call the game may be a factor in the outcome. Not bringing our A game will definitely be a factor in the outcome.
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Post by Sipowicz on Mar 6, 2020 22:21:55 GMT -5
Two things I would not like to see tomorrow from OSUN:do not try drawing the charge, you simply won't get that call on the road; and do not leave your feet too soon on block attempts.
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Post by artvandalay on Mar 7, 2020 7:56:34 GMT -5
Its been an up and down regular season but after the win tonight the season will have to be considered a huge success!
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