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Post by Pinnum on Dec 7, 2023 8:48:35 GMT -5
While you're correct that Bonas has been lead well, I would like to point out that the declines mentioned started 10 years ago. Those hit Bonas too. While Fredonia didn't adjust course, our prior leadership made decisions that were very unpopular with the faculty at the time which helped to put the school in a better place today. Those hard decisions when they started to see headwinds benefitted the school. This really helped the current administration as they were in a better spot that they otherwise would have been. Also, I always get a kick out of faculty protests. I can't imagine losing 40% of customers over a period of 10 years and having employees protest the possibility of some layoffs. |
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Post by dadster81 on Dec 7, 2023 9:20:00 GMT -5
What is more impressive about SBU, and confusing re SUNY, is that the NYS SUNY free tuition (the Excelsior scholarship program) started in 2017, and they are still seeing decreases (and we have been seeing increases).
Re the layoff protests, i am from a family of teachers, and many think they have jobs for life, and almost nothing can get them fired.
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Post by derhut on Dec 7, 2023 9:37:10 GMT -5
an example of what is happening in the midwest
the Univ of Illinois...their " best profs " were found to be focusing on research as opposed to contributing to the classroom experience. It was discovered that the U of I was aggressively pursuing foreign students
as opposed to working with the spawn of tax payers....strong liberal arts schools such as Augustana and Knox...both very small, but have decades of experience putting together financial aid packages for top students....
The states have experienced a down draft in tax receipts which = less money for good old state U. All of a sudden...the U of I is losing top notch students to the smaller private schools as in many cases it is cheaper to send the child to the smaller private school as the bottom line invoice is less than what the state school wants...then...throw in the china flu...people [customers ] are waking up to the fact that the state school were shortchanging their kids....makes it easy to cast one's lot with the privates institution. now...this doesnt take into account big time hoops and football games as entertainment for the total experience of the students and their fellow
"student athletes"
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Post by dadster81 on Dec 7, 2023 10:19:57 GMT -5
Derhut - one of my kids is a "Fighting Illini" grad school grad. Urbana is a great little town. State schools love out of state, and foreign students - they pay the "full boat" for enrollment.
Here is an interesting fact I heard the other day - Harvard receives more Federal grant and related program $ each year than they receive in tuition!! It is nice to know that taxpayers are underwriting some poor schools such as Harvard, with no billion $ endowments. Yes, I understand research is important, but come on.
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Post by bub on Dec 7, 2023 10:56:00 GMT -5
College of St Rose in Albany, which is 103 years old, just announced they are shutting down in May, 2024. They currently have approx 3,000 students, including 2,000 undergrads that will need a school to attend next year. They are a Catholic liberal arts school with a top nursing program, very similar to Bona. I know Siena has been reaching out to the St Rose students and hopefully our admissions dept is doing the same with some heavy duty recruiting of those students. Related to the closing, old friend Will Brown was just named the women's basketball coach at St Rose. He will also be looking for a job.  |
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Post by kccgold on Dec 7, 2023 10:58:39 GMT -5
College of St Rose in Albany, which is 103 years old, just announced they are shutting down in May, 2024. They currently have approx 3,000 students, including 2,000 undergrads that will need a school to attend next year. They are a Catholic liberal arts school with a top nursing program, very similar to Bona. I know Siena has been reaching out to the St Rose students and hopefully our admissions dept is doing the same with some heavy duty recruiting of those students. Related to the closing, old friend Will Brown was just named the women's basketball coach at St Rose. He will also be looking for a job. I guess you could say taking that job as the women's coach at St. Rose was "career suicide" for Will Brown |
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Post by zorro (res) on Dec 7, 2023 11:30:40 GMT -5
Derhut - one of my kids is a "Fighting Illini" grad school grad. Urbana is a great little town. State schools love out of state, and foreign students - they pay the "full boat" for enrollment.[br My son went to William & Mary. Whenever I was on campus and ran into an out-of-state parent, I would shake their hand and tell them how much I appreciated them. Most would laugh, if somewhat ruefully. |
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Post by derhut on Dec 7, 2023 11:46:39 GMT -5
dadster...glad your child enjoyed their time in champaign urbana..like all things in chicago and illinois..the u of i is a highly politicized [ some would use the phrase corrupt ] institution. it was determined that U of I was paying the foreigners to enroll...one of the problems with U of I is their location...when they go head to head with madison wi, ann arbor, bloomington in...U of I loses as there isnt much to do there...even u of missouri has upped their game with new dorms and massive student union facilities. but the u of i accounting and engineering degrees carry big weight in chicago
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Post by dadster81 on Dec 10, 2023 9:22:56 GMT -5
From the Olean Times Herald. While not listed here, some of the Fredonia majors getting cut are Philosophy, French, Early Childhood Ed. You have to love the quote below - the goal is not to teach to empty classrooms. My take - Higher education is running into the brick wall called "real life".
"The cuts come a week after the private College of Saint Rose in Albany announced it must close in response to high debt and falling enrollment. In September, SUNY Potsdam cut 14 programs amid declining enrollment and a $9 million operational deficit. Earlier in the year, Cazenovia College near Syracuse closed when it could not affordably refinance its high debt and also faced declining enrollment.
Enrollment is the big focus at SUNY. The goal, officials said, is to not teach to “empty classrooms.”
A case in point: At Fredonia, some of the programs being cut have only one student enrolled. In total, 74 students are in the 13 programs — which is an average of fewer than six students per program — and a third of them are seniors. All of the students will be able to complete their program, but no new students will be added."
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Post by jjjacks17 on Jun 4, 2024 21:13:11 GMT -5
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Post by bonniefanatic508 on Jun 5, 2024 5:35:36 GMT -5
What new construction is currently happening on campus?
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Post by thesocalkid on Jun 5, 2024 6:30:24 GMT -5
The SBU admissions team did a GREAT job. I was not a good enough to get accepted to SBU.
Over the years I have talked with a lot of students and/or parents. I thank them profusely for going to Bonas and their parents for making it possible to attend.
I absolutely disagree with Washington DC for forgiving the student loan debt. There are so many things wrong with it. If, you disagree TFB. I like many others worked my way through Cal State Fullerton.
THANK YOU PARENTS
ps the party is at Der Hut - Zandi Bar, The Wormy Chestnut, Wooden Nickel, The Jubilation and The Central Bar and The Pickennany in Homer Hill.
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Post by kccgold on Jun 5, 2024 7:51:23 GMT -5
Great news on the incoming class, St. Bonaventure is healthy and thriving
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Post by ceharv on Jun 5, 2024 7:55:46 GMT -5
If anyone has an answer to bonniefanatic’s question, I am also curious to hear an update on campus work. I presume this summer is being used to move forward at full speed with the campus improvements announced a year or two ago, the name of which I forget already, but which I recall was expected to take several years to complete. Where are we on that?
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Post by skeller6 on Jun 5, 2024 8:50:03 GMT -5
Just an amazing trend in enrollment at Bonas, while other colleges are struggling Bonas continues to excell............we owe so much to the Leadership of the late President Dennis DePerro and his vision for Bonas.
With the support of the BoT he transformed Bonas from struggling status to outstanding status, with his huge push for Allied health fields of study.
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