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Post by towniegrad on Apr 23, 2024 10:09:30 GMT -5
Rugby and beer pong…a bona natural!
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Post by dadster81 on Apr 23, 2024 14:19:53 GMT -5
Now here is a new (and scary twist). The Player of the Year in Buffalo is playing as a "preferred walk on" for Arkansas St next year. His cost of attending college will be paid by NIL $ !!!. In other words, a scholarship of another color. So what will stop a school with alot deeper pockets than Arkansas St from say paying for three preferred walk ons to attend school for free? What stops a predatory school from poaching a player say half way thru the season and have their second semester costs paid for by NIL $? They cannot play the second semester under the transfer rules, but they are semi locked up for the following year by the new school. Here is the quote re the Buffalo player from the Buffalo news:
"Harrison will continue his basketball career at Arkansas State as a preferred walk-on, but will have his tuition covered due to Name, Image, Likeness, commonly known as NIL. He’s the first WNY athlete to join a Division I program out of high school since Roddy Gayle, Lewiston-Porter Class of 2022, signed with Ohio State."
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Post by joe48 on May 12, 2024 12:21:37 GMT -5
Just listening to Mark Malusus on WFAN talking about his support of the NIL for good college ball players that will never make the NBA. He mentioned that University of Michigan starting 5 players make in excess of $200k each. Pretty tough to compete against that kind of cash. Mark also believes that there will be no cap placed on NIL because the big money schools don’t want one. Mid majors should have their own tournaments. Who needs the NCAA? There is little added value.
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Post by Chuck on May 12, 2024 13:36:43 GMT -5
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Post by kccgold on May 12, 2024 15:49:41 GMT -5
Hell no on mid majors having own tournament
That’s the one thing we should rally against, now and forever
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Post by bigcat on May 12, 2024 17:56:02 GMT -5
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Post by coach on May 13, 2024 2:05:33 GMT -5
Lets look at the arenas. There are quite a few that are not mid major arenas. SO the NIL has a lot to do with the arena?  So if bona built a huge arena they would have more money to spend on NIL? Even though they are a smaller school with a smaller alumni to collect NIL donation contributions? Interesting. I choose to COMPLAIN ABOUT THE NIL AND PORTAL than listen to you. LOL. Stop Backing the NIL without one valid point. LOL>. What a joke. |
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Post by coach on May 13, 2024 2:25:28 GMT -5
This NIL stuff is just getting more and more ridiculous. SBU hoops doesn't even have a full roster yet and the money being tossed around for above avg players is out of control. They need to hire a financially savvy A.D. and when Schmidt leaves they have to hire a coach that can adapt to recruiting and coaching a completely new team every season. College hoops is over until the NCAA figures something out. Who wants to follow a college team that has a new roster every year? NBA players are more team loyal than college players. Venning, came to SBU overweight and completely transformed his build and became the main focus of the offense. He played every minute he could handle and touched the ball the majority of possessions. Even, a guy like that chooses to leave. He really developed at SBU and he really was the main priority on offense He decided to leave with just one year remaining. He will most likely underachieve next season b/c he is not fast enough to play in that conference. He struggled in the Atlantic 10. So, he may get paid more this season but most likely will not be noticed in the ACC. I think it's a bad move b/c in all reality his game translates to overseas. Now, his game at BC prob translates to less minutes, less pts, no boards, and a ton of turnovers equalling less money overseas after graduation. ohhh, that's right- he transferred for the 3rd time for his career goals. I forgot. LOL |
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Post by joe48 on May 13, 2024 4:05:47 GMT -5
Chuck and KCC,
What is your solution to bring Bona basketball status back to 1970’s? We love to reflect on the history of our basketball team. I understand that but it is now mid May and we still have 4 or so open scholarships. We will be rebuilding every year. Players realize making it to the NBA is a long shot and will take the money being offered. I can’t blame them. Do we have the$$ to compete? Am I missing something?
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Post by agoo on May 13, 2024 5:12:34 GMT -5
This NIL stuff is just getting more and more ridiculous. SBU hoops doesn't even have a full roster yet and the money being tossed around for above avg players is out of control. They need to hire a financially savvy A.D. and when Schmidt leaves they have to hire a coach that can adapt to recruiting and coaching a completely new team every season. College hoops is over until the NCAA figures something out. Who wants to follow a college team that has a new roster every year? NBA players are more team loyal than college players. Venning, came to SBU overweight and completely transformed his build and became the main focus of the offense. He played every minute he could handle and touched the ball the majority of possessions. Even, a guy like that chooses to leave. He really developed at SBU and he really was the main priority on offense He decided to leave with just one year remaining. He will most likely underachieve next season b/c he is not fast enough to play in that conference. He struggled in the Atlantic 10. So, he may get paid more this season but most likely will not be noticed in the ACC. I think it's a bad move b/c in all reality his game translates to overseas. Now, his game at BC prob translates to less minutes, less pts, no boards, and a ton of turnovers equalling less money overseas after graduation. ohhh, that's right- he transferred for the 3rd time for his career goals. I forgot. LOL I wouldn’t point to Venning as a problem here. He graduated and is taking an opportunity to get another degree elsewhere. He was upfront about this departure as well. |
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Post by Hermit on May 13, 2024 7:36:35 GMT -5
Chuck and KCC, What is your solution to bring Bona basketball status back to 1970’s? We love to reflect on the history of our basketball team. I understand that but it is now mid May and we still have 4 or so open scholarships. We will be rebuilding every year. Players realize making it to the NBA is a long shot and will take the money being offered. I can’t blame them. Do we have the$$ to compete? Am I missing something? Find another Tom Stith, or Bob Lanier. |
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Post by bigcat on May 13, 2024 9:26:04 GMT -5
This NIL stuff is just getting more and more ridiculous. SBU hoops doesn't even have a full roster yet and the money being tossed around for above avg players is out of control. They need to hire a financially savvy A.D. and when Schmidt leaves they have to hire a coach that can adapt to recruiting and coaching a completely new team every season. College hoops is over until the NCAA figures something out. Who wants to follow a college team that has a new roster every year? NBA players are more team loyal than college players. Venning, came to SBU overweight and completely transformed his build and became the main focus of the offense. He played every minute he could handle and touched the ball the majority of possessions. Even, a guy like that chooses to leave. He really developed at SBU and he really was the main priority on offense He decided to leave with just one year remaining. He will most likely underachieve next season b/c he is not fast enough to play in that conference. He struggled in the Atlantic 10. So, he may get paid more this season but most likely will not be noticed in the ACC. I think it's a bad move b/c in all reality his game translates to overseas. Now, his game at BC prob translates to less minutes, less pts, no boards, and a ton of turnovers equalling less money overseas after graduation. ohhh, that's right- he transferred for the 3rd time for his career goals. I forgot. LOL I wouldn’t point to Venning as a problem here. He graduated and is taking an opportunity to get another degree elsewhere. He was upfront about this departure as well. Agreed. Cannot blame the players. They didn’t create these stupid-ass rules. As I’ve posted a few times … none of us know Chad’s financial situation or the challenges any of these player’s families face. Most of the players realize after a season or two that they are not making it to the NBA. They likely don’t want to play overseas or in the under-paid USA minor leagues. So they opt to get paid now. That usually means transferring - regardless of the fit. Maybe it’s 10k a year or a bigger payday. I did read somewhere that many NIL deals have clauses for performance, games/mpg, etc. Not sure if that is accurate or enforceable by the NIL or school. It’s all a moving target — and the players are just trying to survive and get paid. Sucks — but it is what it is. |
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Post by jjjacks17 on May 13, 2024 14:35:45 GMT -5
Chuck and KCC, What is your solution to bring Bona basketball status back to 1970’s? We love to reflect on the history of our basketball team. I understand that but it is now mid May and we still have 4 or so open scholarships. We will be rebuilding every year. Players realize making it to the NBA is a long shot and will take the money being offered. I can’t blame them. Do we have the$$ to compete? Am I missing something? Find another Tom Stith, or Bob Lanier. So that they can play well for a year or two until a power four school comes to them with multiple bags of cash. |
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Post by bigcat on Jun 10, 2024 5:13:52 GMT -5
College athletes can offer their services through NIL websites. Nothing earth shattering. The concept has been around for a few years.
What surprised me today was to see that some colleges link the players “marketplace” to their roster pages on the athletics websites (like Gobonnies … though SBU is not doing this).
I’m sure there are hordes of other companies that do the same thing as Opendorse. They work with schools to help initiate, track and monitor NIL deals for athletes. They have a website where fans and boosters can go directly to athletes to purchase their autographs, personal appearances, social media posts, etc.
Many of the participants are athletes in non-revenue sports. I came across this when looking at the Providence bball roster. Most PC players have links to their profiles in Opendorse. You can view how much each player charges for appearances or social posts. OMG, how being a “student” and getting a quality education must not be the least bit important to many of these athletes. Many I’m sure are wrapped up in social media and their NIL deals.
Colleges think they are helping kids land NIL deals but I’m sure it’s another distraction for many athletes who make little or no money “pimping” themselves.
Back in the day many SBU student athletes — as well as non-athletes — had Work-Study jobs to earn $15 to $20 a week to buy beer, a sub, gas, or a few postage stamps. The jobs also helped to mold the work ethic and discipline needed to survive post-graduation.
Full scholarship athletes were not allowed to have campus employment (any job?) for ridiculous reasons. Was the NCAA trying to protect the players or prevent cheating? Neither was possible.
If the NCAA would have resolved this decades ago or perhaps came up with some revenue sharing maybe we would not be in the current cesspool that will further divide the haves and have nots.
End of rant.
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Post by skeller6 on Jun 10, 2024 7:47:25 GMT -5
Dont kid yourself......... the NIL payola scandal, the unlimited free agency and paid salaries are a disaster for mid major programs and will inevitably lead to the two tier system of Division 1 athletics......
Anyone who thinks mid major can compete with the Power 5 in those terms is clearly delusional......
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So if bona built a huge arena they would have more money to spend on NIL?