Possible Post Season

[jjjacks17]

Mar 17, 2024 21:09:49 GMT -5 marylandbonnie1 said:

Those end of the year losses to GW and SLU, probably a deciding factor.

Right if we lose only one of these and win the other two then we have to be clear to make it. The goal of this program really should be have the NIT as a floor and make the NCAAs on good seasons.

[buffalo]

The Bonnies didn’t get picked because the Buffalo/Western New York market doesn’t matter to the networks. The Bonnies got Buffalo Bills treatment. That is just garbage that St Joseph’s, Xavier and Loyola-Chicago that the Bonnies beat three days ago went. If the Bonnies aren’t perfect with teams they should beat they aren’t going because of our Buffalo television market size what a bunch of garbage. No way the Bonnies deserve to go to the NIT after beating Loyola-Chicago. I am saying this as a Bonnies basketball fan and Canisius alum so I am not a homer St Bonaventure alum saying this. We all know why they went Chicago television market and television can’t get enough of the 104 year old nun Sister Jean that is why. If Buffalo was in the top 30 television markets instead of 50 something today the Bonnies would have been selected by the NIT. If Bonnies fans can’t see what happened I don’t know what they are looking at. Buffalo has got the short end of the stick by television for decades now. Those USA network announcers were cheerleading Loyola-Chicago. The Bonnies beating them was the last thing television networks wanted it’s pathetic in my opinion. Go Bonnies! Let’s Go Buffalo

[ctm77]

- The Bonnies get ratings and the Bills have been on national TV plenty with Josh Allen so I don’t know what you are talking about

[coach]

Mar 17, 2024 21:49:39 GMT -5 buffalo said:

The Bonnies didn’t get picked because the Buffalo/Western New York market doesn’t matter to the networks. The Bonnies got Buffalo Bills treatment. That is just garbage that St Joseph’s, Xavier and Loyola-Chicago that the Bonnies beat three days ago went. If the Bonnies aren’t perfect with teams they should beat they aren’t going because of our Buffalo television market size what a bunch of garbage. No way the Bonnies deserve to go to the NIT after beating Loyola-Chicago. I am saying this as a Bonnies basketball fan and Canisius alum so I am not a homer St Bonaventure alum saying this. We all know why they went Chicago television market and television can’t get enough of the 104 year old nun Sister Jean that is why. If Buffalo was in the top 30 television markets instead of 50 something today the Bonnies would have been selected by the NIT. If Bonnies fans can’t see what happened I don’t know what they are looking at. Buffalo has got the short end of the stick by television for decades now. Those USA network announcers were cheerleading Loyola-Chicago. The Bonnies beating them was the last thing television networks wanted it’s pathetic in my opinion. Go Bonnies! Let’s Go Buffalo

Ummm NO, it's because this years team doesn't deserve it. LOL.

And, I'm a die hard bona fan.

[skeller6]

Bonas did not get picked because of the GW and SLU losses, however if they beat the Iron Dukes, they would have been in.

Barry Evans needs to stick around, he is a rebounding machine like Taqque.............

[kccgold]

St Joes is laughable, 9th place and we beat them by a million.

I think they put them in as a favor to Billy Lange who can now say he’s made the postseason once in his life and keep his job



Honestly though, with a bunch of good teams declining the invite, maybe we don’t want the NIT anyway, the tournament has lost a lot of its shine now that they don’t play at MSG and good teams stopped playing in it

[bonagoose]

Mar 18, 2024 1:37:15 GMT -5 coach said:

Mar 17, 2024 21:49:39 GMT -5 buffalo said:

The Bonnies didn’t get picked because the Buffalo/Western New York market doesn’t matter to the networks. The Bonnies got Buffalo Bills treatment. That is just garbage that St Joseph’s, Xavier and Loyola-Chicago that the Bonnies beat three days ago went. If the Bonnies aren’t perfect with teams they should beat they aren’t going because of our Buffalo television market size what a bunch of garbage. No way the Bonnies deserve to go to the NIT after beating Loyola-Chicago. I am saying this as a Bonnies basketball fan and Canisius alum so I am not a homer St Bonaventure alum saying this. We all know why they went Chicago television market and television can’t get enough of the 104 year old nun Sister Jean that is why. If Buffalo was in the top 30 television markets instead of 50 something today the Bonnies would have been selected by the NIT. If Bonnies fans can’t see what happened I don’t know what they are looking at. Buffalo has got the short end of the stick by television for decades now. Those USA network announcers were cheerleading Loyola-Chicago. The Bonnies beating them was the last thing television networks wanted it’s pathetic in my opinion. Go Bonnies! Let’s Go Buffalo

Ummm NO, it's because this years team doesn't deserve it. LOL.

And, I'm a die hard bona fan.

IMHO - You're both wrong and both right.

The A-10 teams (for simplification purposes and easy comparisons) that made it were VCU (Net Ranking of 69), Richmond (73), Loyola Chicago (85), and St. Joseph's (92). SBU's final NET ranking was 87. While we beat VCU twice H2H: they were an A-10 tournament finalist, had a higher NET ranking, and finished higher than us in the A-10 regular season. Richmond was co-regular season champion, beat us H2H, and had a higher NET ranking. We beat LUC 2x H2H, but they finished as co-regular season champions and had a higher NET ranking (by the way, I don't use NET ranking as an authority because I believe in NET, simply because the post-season tournaments CLAIM that they do). So IMO - the only team you can argue about is SJU. And to me that is a very strong argument because:

We beat them H2H, had a higher NET ranking, reached the same point in the Conference Tournament, and finished ahead of them in the regular season. So there has to be something more at play there. What is it? I don't know. TV is as good a guess as any. Also, if you look at the NIT match-ups, they appear to be trying to have a bunch of "regional" games. Meaning, the teams are in geographic proximity so they are clearly trying to have good attendance numbers. Obviously we always travel well, but I don't know that they think that hard about it. They just had a last spot to travel to Seton Hall and perhaps thought "Philadelphia and NJ vs. SWNY and NJ? We'll take Philly."

[chrismoses]

Mar 18, 2024 6:45:33 GMT -5 kccgold said:

St Joes is laughable, 9th place and we beat them by a million.

I think they put them in as a favor to Billy Lange who can now say he’s made the postseason once in his life and keep his job



Honestly though, with a bunch of good teams declining the invite, maybe we don’t want the NIT anyway, the tournament has lost a lot of its shine now that they don’t play at MSG and good teams stopped playing in it

Lange was never getting fired this offseason and SBU was never turning down an NIT bid. Schmidt himself said they were hopeful to be in the field. Our losses at GW and home to SLU did us in. We win those two and we are in safely.

Saint Joe's making the field is not the biggest head scratcher in the NIT field.

[kccgold]

Mar 18, 2024 8:31:05 GMT -5 chrismoses said:

Mar 18, 2024 6:45:33 GMT -5 kccgold said:

St Joes is laughable, 9th place and we beat them by a million.

I think they put them in as a favor to Billy Lange who can now say he’s made the postseason once in his life and keep his job



Honestly though, with a bunch of good teams declining the invite, maybe we don’t want the NIT anyway, the tournament has lost a lot of its shine now that they don’t play at MSG and good teams stopped playing in it

Lange was never getting fired this offseason and SBU was never turning down an NIT bid. Schmidt himself said they were hopeful to be in the field. Our losses at GW and home to SLU did us in. We win those two and we are in safely.

Saint Joe's making the field is not the biggest head scratcher in the NIT field.

I didn't figure we would ever turn it down, that would be dumb. I am just not crying in my beer over not getting into the consolation tournament that is clearly, sadly, dying.

St. Joe's isn't, but suppose they won the whole thing. "That's nice but St. John's, Pitt, Oklahoma, etc.. all turned it down, so, cute victory" 

[kccgold]

Mar 18, 2024 8:22:33 GMT -5 bonagoose said:

Mar 18, 2024 1:37:15 GMT -5 coach said:

Ummm NO, it's because this years team doesn't deserve it. LOL.

And, I'm a die hard bona fan.

IMHO - You're both wrong and both right.

The A-10 teams (for simplification purposes and easy comparisons) that made it were VCU (Net Ranking of 69), Richmond (73), Loyola Chicago (85), and St. Joseph's (92). SBU's final NET ranking was 87. While we beat VCU twice H2H: they were an A-10 tournament finalist, had a higher NET ranking, and finished higher than us in the A-10 regular season. Richmond was co-regular season champion, beat us H2H, and had a higher NET ranking. We beat LUC 2x H2H, but they finished as co-regular season champions and had a higher NET ranking (by the way, I don't use NET ranking as an authority because I believe in NET, simply because the post-season tournaments CLAIM that they do). So IMO - the only team you can argue about is SJU. And to me that is a very strong argument because:

We beat them H2H, had a higher NET ranking, reached the same point in the Conference Tournament, and finished ahead of them in the regular season. So there has to be something more at play there. What is it? I don't know. TV is as good a guess as any. Also, if you look at the NIT match-ups, they appear to be trying to have a bunch of "regional" games. Meaning, the teams are in geographic proximity so they are clearly trying to have good attendance numbers. Obviously we always travel well, but I don't know that they think that hard about it. They just had a last spot to travel to Seton Hall and perhaps thought "Philadelphia and NJ vs. SWNY and NJ? We'll take Philly."

for real. Yeah we lost to GW and St. Louis. St. Joe's lost to St. Louis as well, and Rhode Island and something called Texas A&M Commerce. Its hilarious they are in

[fjs64]

Hey, we were 5-1 against the a10 NIT teams...0-4 vs a10 Ncaa tourney teams.

WE were 5-5 regular season against the worst of the A10, the latter is why we are sitting at home.

[maplehurst]

The Chairman of the Selection Committee said in an interview that the strength of out-of-conference schedules factored into the selections and seeding. The Bonnies OOC schedule included the SEC Champion Auburn. It also included selectees, Longwood, Akron, and FAU. While Longwood and Akron are champions of lesser conferences (somebody had to win), the Bonnies OOC looks fairly good.

[chrismoses]

How did North Texas make it?

16-14 overall...0-6 v. Q1, 2-4 v. Q2, 3 Qs losses and a Q1 loss.

[rf1]

Mar 18, 2024 9:59:18 GMT -5 chrismoses said:

How did North Texas make it?

16-14 overall...0-6 v. Q1, 2-4 v. Q2, 3 Qs losses and a Q1 loss.

Better NET rank of #79. Bonnies were #87.

[rf1]

UMass, the #4 seed in the A-10 with a record of 20-11 and an NET rank of #91 was also left out.