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Post by jjjacks17 on Aug 8, 2024 15:04:29 GMT -5
The rest of the A10 should think more like Dayton. Our non conference schedule is embarrassing even if we were a MAC program.
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Post by rf1 on Aug 8, 2024 17:32:52 GMT -5
Would it make sense for Dayton to leave the A-10 as they no longer seem to fit (mis-fit) the rest of the league in many ways including fan attendance, funding, location etc. Dayton would absolutely love to go to a much stronger and higher profile league. The problem is that such a conference apparently doesn't yet want them. |
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Post by bona20 on Aug 8, 2024 18:14:58 GMT -5
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Post by dadster81 on Aug 8, 2024 19:14:15 GMT -5
Would it make sense for Dayton to leave the A-10 as they no longer seem to fit (mis-fit) the rest of the league in many ways including fan attendance, funding, location etc. Dayton would absolutely love to go to a much stronger and higher profile league. The problem is that such a conference apparently doesn't yet want them. There only avenue is the Big East. Surprisingly they haven't come calling yet |
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Post by ceharv on Aug 9, 2024 8:33:00 GMT -5
I’m not so certain Dayton would jump from the A10 if it could. There are other factors that might be involved. Dayton is located in football country, and although it has a program, it’s history might be less impressive then ours (2 Pro HOF members). My guess is that any conference in Dayton’s area and level (it’s NOT getting invited into the Big 10, ACC, SEC, etc.) might require a substantial additional investment in football to allow them in, which the school might not be willing to take on. Despite its hoops success, it’s a Catholic institution that likely sees itself as poor and wouldn’t want to pressure it alums to buy season tix for football, fearing that doing so might result in some of their ticket buyers choosing between the two sports and only buying one and/or not buying the “First Four” games they are so proud of. Alternatively, they might not want to give up their position at the top of the A10, which comes with a legit shot at the Dance every year for what might be a middling position elsewhere - the grass is not always greener elsewhere. I have no idea what they’re thinking, but I think a decision to move is likely jot as clear cut as many seem to presume.
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Post by dadster81 on Aug 9, 2024 9:47:53 GMT -5
I learned two things today.
- Dayton is a Catholic school
- they have a football team (lower level D1)
Your point of being the Big Fish in a Small Pond is a good one. The Big East has a # of schools that are no longer the "Big Fish" in their new pond.
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Post by ceharv on Aug 9, 2024 10:22:44 GMT -5
Dadster - Dayton might looking at the recent results of Butler and Xavier and see that going to the Big East has put them in the middle range of that conference, along with long time member St. John’s and well ahead of the dumpster fire that former Gold star member Georgetown has become, which is a bottom dweller along with DePaul, both programs located in hoops recruiting hotbeds.
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Post by towniegrad on Aug 9, 2024 11:48:29 GMT -5
Both Washington and Chicago produce great high school players, but there are issues…neither are in particularly desirable cities for college students
Georgetown is a top grade ACADEMIC school…maybe not suitable for every good player… Chicago is more known for its murder rate…moms might not see it as a great place for their kids to be…maybe part of their recent declines.
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Post by geneseo on Aug 9, 2024 11:51:16 GMT -5
Wow, reading these comments about Dayton makes me realize what we are dealing with on the Bandwagon. Dayton would sell their Catholic souls to join the Big East. Dayton has not been asked. Every team in the A10 would jump at the chance to go to the Big East.
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Post by bigcat on Aug 9, 2024 11:54:18 GMT -5
Dadster - Dayton might looking at the recent results of Butler and Xavier and see that going to the Big East has put them in the middle range of that conference, along with long time member St. John’s and well ahead of the dumpster fire that former Gold star member Georgetown has become, which is a bottom dweller along with DePaul, both programs located in hoops recruiting hotbeds. Why such harsh criticism of DePaul? They won 3 games last year. 😎 Yes, they were 0-20 in the Big East but the kids had fun and got their degrees. 🫤 Stop judging. The Hoyas were at least two wins better in conference and earned the 10th place ribbons. Oh my, how far those two programs have fallen. |
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Post by bonawolf02 on Aug 9, 2024 12:09:17 GMT -5
Both Washington and Chicago produce great high school players, but there are issues…neither are in particularly desirable cities for college students Georgetown is a top grade ACADEMIC school…maybe not suitable for every good player… Chicago is more known for its murder rate…moms might not see it as a great place for their kids to be…maybe part of their recent declines. Haha...this post is hilarious......all of it....haha. Go Bonas! |
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Post by 123Rob on Aug 9, 2024 12:46:21 GMT -5
Or maybe Dayton isn’t in the Big East because Xavier fights against letting them in
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Post by rf1 on Aug 9, 2024 13:23:43 GMT -5
Wow, reading these comments about Dayton makes me realize what we are dealing with on the Bandwagon. Dayton would sell their Catholic souls to join the Big East. Dayton has not been asked. Every team in the A10 would jump at the chance to go to the Big East. Exactly. They are gone in a NY minute if the BE extended an invite. The problem is the BE has not seemed inclined to date to have done so. There is speculation that this may be due to Xavier not wanting another member that is located so close by (less than 50 miles). Xavier, despite all its longtime history with Dayton, has for the most part refused to even schedule the Flyers for a regular season game since they joined the BE. |
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Post by bub on Aug 9, 2024 14:46:20 GMT -5
Wow, reading these comments about Dayton makes me realize what we are dealing with on the Bandwagon. Dayton would sell their Catholic souls to join the Big East. Dayton has not been asked. Every team in the A10 would jump at the chance to go to the Big East. Exactly. They are gone in a NY minute if the BE extended an invite. The problem is the BE has not seemed inclined to date to have done so. There is speculation that this may be due to Xavier not wanting another member that is located so close by (less than 50 miles). Xavier, despite all its longtime history with Dayton, has for the most part refused to even schedule the Flyers for a regular season game since they joined the BE. It's funny how Xavier has refused to schedule Dayton shortly after they moved to the Big East even though they played each other 135 times going back to 1948 but we keep scheduling Niagara, Canisius and Siena in home and away games. What are we doing? |
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Post by ceharv on Aug 9, 2024 15:44:01 GMT -5
Bub - what we are doing at least in part is not being Xavier, which includes staying loyal to traditions. I am ok with that. How about this? - we dominate them so thoroughly their fans start questioning whether they should continue to play us without demanding money as a “buy” game and if they do, we politely decline? We’re a long way from that but maybe this season can be the beginning.
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