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Post by kccgold on Jun 27, 2024 16:06:16 GMT -5
No problem with playing Siena, Niagara or Canisius. It’s SUNY Amherst that I would scrap.
Little to no history, no rivalry, and they appear to be headed towards being bad for a long time as they aren’t making the necessary investments in their basketball program anyway
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Post by bona20 on Jun 27, 2024 16:40:57 GMT -5
Having a third home and home with a MAAC school we have little basketball history with is not smart. You don’t see anyone else in the A10 with this many home and homes with inferior MAAC-type schools for a reason. The best team in that league is usually around 150 in the NET and offers no benefit with a win, and is a devastating loss. We didn’t regularly play them until 2010, and nobody cares when we beat them. One of the saddest things I have ever seen is last year at the RC when we had ROTC cadets guarding the Franciscan Cup during the game. I say let someone steal it and throw it in the Allegany River if it means we stop going to Albany every other year. Siena comes in at #15 on the list of teams Bonnies have played all time. That is actually, quite a long history. There are more than likely many reasons why we play Siena. One is that Bonnies generally come out on top. That is not the case with most of the top 20 most played teams in Bona history. Bona has a winning record over only 6 of those top 20 most played teams: Canisius, Niagara, Duquesne,Fordham,LaSalle, and Siena. Bring in West Virginia? 6-33 Temple? 7-51 Syracuse? 4-24 The problem isn’t playing Siena. The problem is doing home and homes with them which have no benefit. Especially when we already are forced to do home and homes with Canisius and Niagara. We should only go on the road in conference and against teams that are actually good and offer us a benefit if we beat them. No other team in the A10 has three locked in home and homes with MAAC schools.
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Post by geneseo on Jun 27, 2024 16:43:22 GMT -5
SBU is in the Atlantic 10 and should schedule like it. Syracuse is in the ACC now, they aren't going to do home and homes with SBU. Siena is in the MAAC, we should not be playing 3 home and homes with this league. We used to play Alfred regularly in the regular season. Should we go back to that? Times change our scheduling should also.
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Post by zorro (res) on Jun 27, 2024 16:47:55 GMT -5
bona and Siena are both kind of Franciscan schools with sort of common roots Umm, Canisius is Jesuit. As Catholic religious orders go, these are close to as disparate as they come.
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Post by zorro (res) on Jun 27, 2024 16:52:09 GMT -5
No problem with playing Siena, Niagara or Canisius. It’s SUNY Amherst that I would scrap. Little to no history, no rivalry, and they appear to be headed towards being bad for a long time as they aren’t making the necessary investments in their basketball program anyway Sure, like Canisius and Niagara are. I'm not a fan of the home-and-homes, but if I had to keep one, it would be UB.
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Post by towniegrad on Jun 27, 2024 17:01:38 GMT -5
bona has played many marginal teams over the years and will continue…some of them so poorly known you have to look them up..So playing a known team from the nys capital city doesn’t really seem that unreasonable .
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Post by kccgold on Jun 27, 2024 17:50:51 GMT -5
No problem with playing Siena, Niagara or Canisius. It’s SUNY Amherst that I would scrap. Little to no history, no rivalry, and they appear to be headed towards being bad for a long time as they aren’t making the necessary investments in their basketball program anyway Sure, like Canisius and Niagara are. I'm not a fan of the home-and-homes, but if I had to keep one, it would be UB. Why though? They are 3rd on my list of those 3. I think I’d put Canisius 1st just cause that takes us downtown Buffalo and they are our oldest rivals
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Post by Hermit on Jun 27, 2024 18:19:28 GMT -5
SBU is in the Atlantic 10 and should schedule like it. Syracuse is in the ACC now, they aren't going to do home and homes with SBU. Siena is in the MAAC, we should not be playing 3 home and homes with this league. We used to play Alfred regularly in the regular season. Should we go back to that? Times change our scheduling should also. Actually, Alfred was a couple of exhibition games when Coach Schmidt’s sons played there.
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Post by geneseo on Jun 27, 2024 22:01:41 GMT -5
SBU is in the Atlantic 10 and should schedule like it. Syracuse is in the ACC now, they aren't going to do home and homes with SBU. Siena is in the MAAC, we should not be playing 3 home and homes with this league. We used to play Alfred regularly in the regular season. Should we go back to that? Times change our scheduling should also. Actually, Alfred was a couple of exhibition games when Coach Schmidt’s sons played there. Yes, SBU has played exhibitions against Alfred. What I was talking about was the 31 times SBU has played Alfred in the regular season. The record is 27-4 in those matchups. Using some of the logic in this thread, the Saxons should be a regular on the regular season schedule. They are local and we have a long history with them.
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Post by coach on Jun 28, 2024 0:32:31 GMT -5
Actually, Alfred was a couple of exhibition games when Coach Schmidt’s sons played there. Yes, SBU has played exhibitions against Alfred. What I was talking about was the 31 times SBU has played Alfred in the regular season. The record is 27-4 in those matchups. Using some of the logic in this thread, the Saxons should be a regular on the regular season schedule. They are local and we have a long history with them. ALFRED is Division 3 so they can't be on the regular season schedule. What in the world is going on here? LOL. Holy hell
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Post by chrismoses on Jun 28, 2024 7:28:22 GMT -5
If we had a bag of cash lying around, we wouldn't be playing all of these H&Hs. This year, we have four H&Hs against Q3/4 opponents. Lose one or two and your at large chances are dead by December...and you need to win by 20 + to make a considerable jump.
Despite most of these teams being pretty bad, UB is by far the best and most consistent team of the bunch despite two down years. Taking them off the schedule would be foolish.
I'm fine with dumping CC and NU, but that's never going to happen. Hopefully the last two games on this schedule are worthy opponents because this schedule lacks quality. If we must play H&Hs, let's go to the BEST Ivy program in Princeton. They would be a Q1 and you'd have a strong Bona contingent in Central Jersey.
But if we turned down a game with Tulane last year, I doubt Schmidt would want to play Princeton.
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Post by 78francis302 on Jun 28, 2024 8:46:51 GMT -5
Northridge game is as confirmed as it gets. Made For March got the financials of the contract and everything This Cal State Northridge game scares me as it being played on the Presidential election night and if Newsom replaces Biden as the democratic candidate then the Matador's may be pumped.
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Post by kccgold on Jun 28, 2024 9:07:41 GMT -5
I would've thought the Florida Gulf Coast game would align with the Florida tournament. But it doesnt look like it. So we go down there, come back, and go down there again. That's a challenging start
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Post by geneseo on Jun 28, 2024 9:23:31 GMT -5
Yes, SBU has played exhibitions against Alfred. What I was talking about was the 31 times SBU has played Alfred in the regular season. The record is 27-4 in those matchups. Using some of the logic in this thread, the Saxons should be a regular on the regular season schedule. They are local and we have a long history with them. ALFRED is Division 3 so they can't be on the regular season schedule. What in the world is going on here? LOL. Holy hell I guess sarcasm is lost here. The original point was we shouldn't be playing Siena. The argument that was made was that we should play them because of tradition and it is a team in the Capital. With Alfred I was pointing out that times change. Some of our scheduling has not. I am in no way advocating playing Alfred.
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Post by maplehurst on Jun 28, 2024 11:58:55 GMT -5
We always play Alfred at home in the first game. If we played at Alfred, our players would get used to a hostile crowd earlier than usual. Otherwise we get little out of playing Alfred.
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