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Post by derhut on Apr 21, 2014 19:50:40 GMT -5
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Post by jack68 on Apr 21, 2014 19:58:32 GMT -5
Jim Gagnier was on scholarship and I believe he left in his sophmore year; Gene Fahey and Pete Wisnowski were walk-ons.
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Post by mangham on Apr 21, 2014 20:00:38 GMT -5
All I can say is I doubt he was 6'5" but he could jump like no other player I had ever seen. Always a what could have been!
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Post by jack68 on Apr 21, 2014 20:14:07 GMT -5
All I can say is I doubt he was 6'5" but he could jump like no other player I had ever seen. Always a what could have been! Willie was no more than 6'1",and an incredible leaper with quick hands. I do remember him frustrating Calvin Murphy. He would have added depth to the 67-68 undefeated team and undoubtedly would have been an integral part of the 69-70 final four team.
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Post by jh on Apr 22, 2014 11:28:39 GMT -5
How was the recruiting after the 1970 Final 4 season? Glenn Price was a product of that? Others?
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Post by faffy444 on Apr 22, 2014 11:56:03 GMT -5
How was the recruiting after the 1970 Final 4 season? Glenn Price was a product of that? Others? its a good thing they signed glenn price that year. he wasnt announced until june 21 1970 in the courier express. the remainder of that class was awful. the other 3 signees that year were billy jenkins, rich murray, and walt schafer. none of the 3 were D1 caliber players. price is one of the all time under rated players ever at bona in my opinion.
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Post by faffy444 on Apr 22, 2014 12:12:18 GMT -5
Can't remember his name,Billups I think was a 6-9 kid out of Buffalo mid 80's did not play due to a heart condition.Not sure what class he could have contributed to. Nii for THREEEEEE ........sorry had to say it. yes vory billups was from bennett high in buffalo. the other members of his recruiting class were mike wager, and al middleton.
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Post by class70 on Apr 22, 2014 12:18:09 GMT -5
Yes, Gagnier was a scholarship player from Day One but did not make it much farther than our freshman year. I think what was said above about his leaving sometime during or after sophomore year is correct. Pete Wisniowski lived next door to me on 3rd Dev and was a walk-on as a freshman, though he did have several scholarship offers from other schools before choosing Bona's. Also on that freshman team was Pete Lynch, a walk-on I had known from when we started first grade. I have lost track of both Pete's.
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Post by derhut on Apr 22, 2014 14:02:24 GMT -5
ganier was nicknames "surf" as he has a streak of surfer boy blonde in his hair and fahey was nicknamed "murph" due to the excellent job on D that he turned in on calvin murphy. pete lynch also played baseball for the brown Indians...3rd base as I recall...was good friends with pitcher larry Snyder on that team..faffy..I agree...Jenkins, Murray and Wally were terrible. Some of this non opportunistic recruiting and attitude was the beginning of the end for the brown Indians head coach...slim price was unbelievable...he could hit the 15-18' jumper with amazing accuracy..rebounded very well also...after this class..guys like carl Jackson, jimmy wallace Howie Harrison, steve hocker, billy moore, timmy Flanagan, bobby roz, hollis, sanders and hagen came in...some very good talent came in during the early to mid 70s...I still think that moore could have been one of the all time greats if off the court medication hadn't done him in !
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Post by jh on Apr 22, 2014 14:07:05 GMT -5
How was the recruiting after the 1970 Final 4 season? Glenn Price was a product of that? Others? its a good thing they signed glenn price that year. he wasnt announced until june 21 1970 in the courier express. the remainder of that class was awful. the other 3 signees that year were billy jenkins, rich murray, and walt schafer. none of the 3 were D1 caliber players. price is one of the all time under rated players ever at bona in my opinion. Seems like a real missed opportunity to have the program continue to grow into the 70s....
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Post by sbu79 on Apr 22, 2014 14:11:42 GMT -5
its a good thing they signed glenn price that year. he wasnt announced until june 21 1970 in the courier express. the remainder of that class was awful. the other 3 signees that year were billy jenkins, rich murray, and walt schafer. none of the 3 were D1 caliber players. price is one of the all time under rated players ever at bona in my opinion. Seems like a real missed opportunity to have the program continue to grow into the 70s.... I remember my brother ('70) always complaining during the Lanier et al years that the staff wasn't doing enough to recruit the replacements for those teams.
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Post by derhut on Apr 22, 2014 14:18:53 GMT -5
yes it was an opportunity that was not maximized. back then, sbu, st johns, nova and a few others ruled the east...Niagara was in the midst of a great run with murphy and frank layden..they recruited nyc hard..pulled out marshall wingate..also hit western ny hard..getting Kerry reedy from lew-port and a bit later got Ollie harper from nfhs...st bona was full of kids from nyc, LI and jersey and hoops was the vehicle to boost admissions and donations..none of this took place...remember that the drinking age was 18 at this time [not that it mattered], but club 17 and the burton were hopping from Wednesday night on..kegs lined the hallways of dev...it was a great time to be at sbu. one fact that spoke volumes was the fact that out of all of the little 3 coaches..layden and mackinnon got pro jobs...weise finally got out of the way..satalin took over...unfortunately weise wouldn't give up his summer camps which diluted satts' summer camp opportunities--a big brawl insued...satts left for Duquesne..the rest is history...
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Post by jh on Apr 22, 2014 14:20:32 GMT -5
Its really amazing with recruiting - its the lifeblood of the program and its never stagnant its either improving your program or hurting it... Those times were different ofcourse with many schools pretty much being independents - players were not choosing a 'conference' in the way they do now.
Some of our current quality recruiting is aided by the overall improvement and increased exposure of the A10
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Post by derhut on Apr 22, 2014 14:22:14 GMT -5
the coach/ad got relatively fat and happy with things...totally missed the boat.
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Post by jh on Apr 22, 2014 14:26:23 GMT -5
I asked Satalin once what were 2 of his biggest 'near misses' in recruiting and he mentioned losing Roosevelt Bouie to Syracuse and mentioned 6'9 Chris Patton of St Francis hs near Buffalo who signed with Maryland and passed away in a pickup game there - these were more 1974 hs grads rather than 1970 hs grads
In that era the Buffalo Catholic League was loaded with D1 talent
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