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Post by bonafide on Apr 16, 2006 11:29:35 GMT -5
I've said it elsewhere on this board but I think that the subject deserves its own thread. I feel that the 2006/07 season is shaping up to be a total disaster with minimal wins. The erratic recruiting, Coach Gee's loss and Solomon's coaching deficiencies are all working together to form what I feel will be a 3 win (max) season. So where does the program go post-Solomon? Another haphazardly selected, underpaid head coach trying to run a seriously underfunded program that competes out of its league? So SBU bumps along at the bottom of the A10 for a couple more years before we finally get the boot. I've been roundly criticized for suggesting the MAAC but I'm not sure if SBU finally won't be forced into that decision rather than having the opportunity decide on its own terms.
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Post by B02 on Apr 16, 2006 11:48:40 GMT -5
Paul Williams back for another year putting up double doubles, Mike Lee emerging even more as an offensive threat in his 3rd year, A healthy Tyler Relph handling the reins at the point, A healthy Ivan providing frontcourt relief, Hawkins developing an outside game to go along with his tremendous slashing ability, Benson filling the role of PML as the team's go to 3 pt shooter. Then we have the newcomers where Calvin gives us a better version of Diggs where he drives and penetrates, Mourris providing solid Freshmen minutes off the benchi, The Aussie will give us the sharpshooter this team is desparately craving for, Williams filling in nicely for Dunston, and the big question mark front court player that they will be bringing in to help solidify the front court. What makes you think that this team won't be better next year? Yes we did lose Smith, however the other 2 guys were role players (Dunston and PML).
AC here we come...
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Post by fjs64 on Apr 16, 2006 11:54:21 GMT -5
Happy Easter to you Bonafide. It is with deep sadness on this most holy day that your issues with life have to be shared for others to see. May you find consolation that life can be better, and hopefully you will find it.
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Post by bonafide on Apr 16, 2006 11:56:57 GMT -5
HUH? We're talking about a basketball program.
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Post by B02 on Apr 16, 2006 11:59:25 GMT -5
Your comments calling next season a disaster with minimal wins causes people for concern that's all that one can rationally think that this team next year will be worse than the team 2 years ago featuring the dynamic frontcourt of Kuba, Saul, and Brian Gibbs
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Post by sneakers on Apr 16, 2006 12:03:05 GMT -5
Bonafide
You've expressed the same views over and over and over again. You have become a one trick pony ("go to the MAAC") just like Fromunga has ("JVBK is a God"). I'm sure you both do it to try to rile the Bonnies faithful, but you've become a true bore not worthy of a reasoned response.
Suffice it to say that many of us just prefer to have a more upbeat view of the program and the school on this beautiful Easter day.
Go Brown Indians!
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Post by GoPadres on Apr 16, 2006 12:21:09 GMT -5
I just don't see how this coming year's team can be worse than last year's team. Sure, we lose two contributors in Smith and Carson, but we've added a lot. Plus, Lee and Williams will only get better. Relph is claiming the rust will be gone in year two. Ivan will be healthy. Foote will be another big body available on the bench. I think Smith and Carson were good players at Bonas, but it is not like we just lost Dwayne Wade and TJ Ford to the NBA.
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Post by bonafide on Apr 16, 2006 13:03:03 GMT -5
One trick pony indeed. Since I last posted anything anout the MAAC Coach Gee has departed and at least several of us feel that the recruiting has been erratic. I'm predicting a terrible 2006/06 season. If doing that on Easter is off-base, I apologize. You're right....it's a Catholic school and maybe I should be posting about the miracle of 23 wins next season. But we all know that's not going to happen...so OK....taking the one trick pony MAAC out of the discussion.... what options are open to SBU if in fact this coming season as well as the next couple turn out to be flops?
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Post by Chuck on Apr 16, 2006 14:20:37 GMT -5
I just don't see how this coming year's team can be worse than last year's team. Sure, we lose two contributors in Smith and Carson, but we've added a lot. Plus, Lee and Williams will only get better. Relph is claiming the rust will be gone in year two. Ivan will be healthy. Foote will be another big body available on the bench. I think Smith and Carson were good players at Bonas, but it is not like we just lost Dwayne Wade and TJ Ford to the NBA. Bonafide's 3 win prediction is so ridiculous, as Sneakers suggests "it is not worthy of a reasoned response." GoPadres I do question "we've added a lot." Relph had almost the entire season to shake off the rust. Foote is a walk-on. David Fox had better stats and more PT than Ivan prior to his injury. Including B02's comment about Benson and AJ Hawkins, it is a lot of wishful thinking. Hoping it takes place is one thing, but counting on it for a successful season is another. As for the new players, not one of these players was a star on his team. Unlike Ahmad Smith who was a star for the Bonnies. I'll admit the 4 incoming players all have potential, but is this enough to make up for Ahmad Smith? Hopefully I'm wrong, but it will be a challenge to improve upon last season's win total. I honestly hope Solomon turns things around, but I do question if it will happen. |
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Post by B02 on Apr 16, 2006 14:31:24 GMT -5
I think a lot of how this team next year does is based on the abiliity of everyone to play together and contribute. I think Lee and Williams will be the scorers while it will be important everyone else is chipping in when needed. Also, the last scholarship openining will be important to fill with either a shooter or a post player.
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Post by Chuck on Apr 16, 2006 14:46:05 GMT -5
I agree team chemistry is everything. It was lacking last year. Can Solomon develop chemistry without Gee? IMHO Gee is going to be a bigger loss than anyone expects. In the OTH Solomon stated it was "preferable" to use the last scholarship on a post player. Unfortunately Anthony slack will be signing somewhere else, but Calvin Walls or Cory Magee would be good signings.
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Post by sneakers on Apr 16, 2006 17:52:42 GMT -5
One trick pony indeed. Since I last posted anything anout the MAAC Coach Gee has departed and at least several of us feel that the recruiting has been erratic. I'm predicting a terrible 2006/06 season. If doing that on Easter is off-base, I apologize. You're right....it's a Catholic school and maybe I should be posting about the miracle of 23 wins next season. But we all know that's not going to happen...so OK....taking the one trick pony MAAC out of the discussion.... what options are open to SBU if in fact this coming season as well as the next couple turn out to be flops? OK eeyore. Whatever you say. Have fun rooting against your alma mater. |
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Post by sireltonruddock on Apr 16, 2006 18:47:03 GMT -5
One trick pony indeed. Since I last posted anything anout the MAAC Coach Gee has departed and at least several of us feel that the recruiting has been erratic. I'm predicting a terrible 2006/06 season. If doing that on Easter is off-base, I apologize. You're right....it's a Catholic school and maybe I should be posting about the miracle of 23 wins next season. But we all know that's not going to happen...so OK....taking the one trick pony MAAC out of the discussion.... what options are open to SBU if in fact this coming season as well as the next couple turn out to be flops? Go back to the gloomy section of the Hundred Acre Wood, Eeyore. Go Bona's! |
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Post by GoPadres on Apr 16, 2006 22:56:01 GMT -5
Chuck - I think we have added a lot. First, Morris, to me, is a true small forward. The last few seasons, I've felt like we've either been forced to play our 2 guards (Ahmad, Dunston, Hawkins, etc.) at the 3 position, or rely upon Lottin to play the 3. The problem with Lottin playing the 3 was that he never wanted to step inside the 3 point arc. To be a true 3, I think you need to want to score and rebound in the paint on a consistent basis, and I think this is something you will see from Morris.
Second, I believe we have added a much needed outside shooter in Z. Plus, he shoots over 80 percent from the stripe. Two qualities that were lacking on last year's team.
Finally, Willams and Calvin represent stat sheet stuffers to me. These are two guys that will put up crooked numbers in points, assists, steals and rebounds every night. They may not ever score 20 a night, but they will bring well balanced games to the floor. I think both will make a huge impact at the defensive end of the floor, as well.
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Post by mrbonaventure on Apr 17, 2006 8:09:25 GMT -5
Maybe I am in the minority but I agree 06/07 doesn't look promising. At least on paper it doesn't. There is too much player transition taking place. With so many players leaving how can a coach develop consistentcy, tradition, etc. About half the team is made up of JUCO's. I would rather build a solid foundation starting with signing four year players who are quality. Someone made a good point yesterday about geographic recruiting. Why can't we find players from the tri-state area and eastern coast? What has happened to all of our contacts? My gut feeling is it may take longer to having a winning season rather than just four years or so.
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