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Post by skeller6 on May 28, 2021 14:06:39 GMT -5
Is there something lurking in the darkness here..............that we are not aware of?
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Post by thebonafan08 on May 28, 2021 14:22:36 GMT -5
The bottom line is the Alum and fan community deserve at the absolute least a vague statement as to why. I understand they think they can get by not saying anything because of the lack of real pressure from media up there but it’s just not how a D1 program should act. They have had over 24 hours on this. If you are going to confirm to outlets you are not renewing the contract of a top 5 paid university employee and top 3 most visible face in charge of a 14million dollar budget, then be prepared to release a statement as to why. This costs no money and no resources to act like a relevant D1 program, just effort. Have to think there is a reason and by the 1st they will say something. I have to disagree. Why should the details of performance evaluations be made public? Pretty standard practice to at the very least announce and have a press conference when a major personnel decision like this is made out of the blue. Standard for a D1 program at least. But as suggested, moving on. Our Men’s team is way to special to care to much about this.
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Post by CoachSBU on May 28, 2021 14:48:31 GMT -5
I have to ask the question: Did someone high up in the administration NOT like Tim's decision to have the Men's Basketball Team play a game on the day our University President died? Did this have something to do with his dismissal? Or does this just not make much sense at all? It was a tough decision and as I recall, Dayton was the school that took the biggest beating when we had the scandal at the end of the basketball season that year...I would think that had to make it an even more difficult decision to call off the game. Thoughts?
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Post by dadster81 on May 28, 2021 14:50:28 GMT -5
stop highjacking our pickle ball thread, please.
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Post by thesocalkid on May 28, 2021 15:13:30 GMT -5
Just stay out of the Kitchen....
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Post by res on May 28, 2021 15:22:26 GMT -5
stop highjacking our pickle ball thread, please. Hahahaha!
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Post by tastylicks on May 28, 2021 15:24:54 GMT -5
I have to ask the question: Did someone high up in the administration NOT like Tim's decision to have the Men's Basketball Team play a game on the day our University President died? Did this have something to do with his dismissal? Or does this just not make much sense at all? It was a tough decision and as I recall, Dayton was the school that took the biggest beating when we had the scandal at the end of the basketball season that year...I would think that had to make it an even more difficult decision to call off the game. Thoughts? Good question and on topic. I dont know that answer but its possible they didn't like that. Should not have played that day
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Post by towniegrad on May 28, 2021 17:41:57 GMT -5
Well, I think Mr Kennedy will probably move on in the same way that Mr. Watson did. To a more desirable situation, Now re pickle ball,outside of the absurdity,it’s great chutzpah, and quintessential bubble think to suggest olean ,or Allegany pay for that And I think the students are Totally Blissful with corn yuk hole, and beer duh pong..
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Post by thebonafan08 on May 28, 2021 17:45:38 GMT -5
I have to ask the question: Did someone high up in the administration NOT like Tim's decision to have the Men's Basketball Team play a game on the day our University President died? Did this have something to do with his dismissal? Or does this just not make much sense at all? It was a tough decision and as I recall, Dayton was the school that took the biggest beating when we had the scandal at the end of the basketball season that year...I would think that had to make it an even more difficult decision to call off the game. Thoughts? Good question and on topic. I dont know that answer but its possible they didn't like that. Should not have played that day That decision has to land on Schmidt and the team. I would hope at least. We can speculate all we want, school owes donors big and small an answer.
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Post by Bona84 on May 28, 2021 18:04:46 GMT -5
Well, I think Mr Kennedy will probably move on in the same way that Mr. Watson did. To a more desirable situation, Now re pickle ball,outside of the absurdity,it’s great chutzpah, and quintessential bubble think to suggest olean ,or Allegany pay for that And I think the students are Totally Blissful with corn yuk hole, and beer duh pong.. I don't even know who Mr. Kennedy is. And, I'm going to have to google pickle ball to find out what that is, and I'm well over 50.
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Post by skeller6 on May 28, 2021 18:58:31 GMT -5
I have to ask the question: Did someone high up in the administration NOT like Tim's decision to have the Men's Basketball Team play a game on the day our University President died? Did this have something to do with his dismissal? Or does this just not make much sense at all? It was a tough decision and as I recall, Dayton was the school that took the biggest beating when we had the scandal at the end of the basketball season that year...I would think that had to make it an even more difficult decision to call off the game. Thoughts? That could be the case, but I heard no blowback on this issue. Was this the major sticking point? Surely the Acting President had the authority to over-rule the AD and could have called the game off, if he felt it was offensive during that very, very sad day, but he did not. So the mystery remains....why?
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Post by Chuck on May 28, 2021 19:16:09 GMT -5
Attached is JP’s article “Bona opts not to renew contract of AD Kenney.” JP like everyone else is surprised by calling it “wholly unexpected slice of information.” JP states Kenney “accomplished plenty in just over six years at Bona. Following are Kenney’s accomplishment from the article. — “Directing the latter stages of the Athletics Fields Project and renovations to the Reilly Center, which included the installation of a video scoreboard.” — “Overseeing a men’s basketball program that twice made the NCAA Tournament (2018 and ‘21; and a women’s team that advanced in 2016) and twice extending the contract of coach Mark Schmidt,” — “To making fundraising a top priority.” — “His personal coup was engineering the berth of the men’s lacrosse program, which now fields a roster of 40 mostly tuition-paying students and won its first Metro Atlantic Athletic Conference postseason tournament game in April.” www.oleantimesherald.com/sports/bona-opts-not-to-renew-contract-of-ad-kenney/article_2b2818ff-6f7e-5ec7-824e-6e7e819e014d.html
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Post by Chuck on May 28, 2021 19:27:12 GMT -5
It is unprecedented for Bona, not to renew the contract of its athletics director (technically Gothard Lane resigned), so sure I’m curious why they chose to force Kenney to leave. It makes you wonder why, especially with JP's article listing Kenney's impressive accomplishments. Kenney’s accomplishment “overseeing a men’s basketball program that twice made the NCAA Tournament (2018 and ‘21; and a women’s team that advanced in 2016)” has an obvious omission by failing to mention Jesse Fleming. I do not in any way think it is the only reason Kenney was fired, but I wonder if it was a factor. — With the remodeling of Reilly Center it is apparent Jesse Fleming received a new contract. Main entrance to Bob Lanier Court has Schmidt and Fleming welcoming fans. — Bet you would be surprised to know Kenney made just $2,000 more than Fleming. JPs article has Kenney making $157,207 while Fleming made $155,000. — I was curious to see how Kenney was going to justify Fleming’s new contract. It appears news of Fleming receiving a new contract wasn't going to be made public. — The BV has an article titled “Coach Fleming needs to be evaluated.” Article concludes with following. “Fleming has had more than enough time and needs to go. Bonaventure needs a great men’s and women’s basketball team again. Bonaventure shouldn’t have paid a coach $155,000 in 2019 to win eight basketball games a year." I'm sure there are more than author of The BV article, who was less than supportive of Fleming's new contract. www.thebvnewspaper.com/2021/04/15/coach-fleming-needs-to-be-evaluated/
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Post by bigdobber on May 29, 2021 6:14:39 GMT -5
Nobody is taking a one year contract unless you were set to retire and you were asked to come back to transition a new hire. A couple of obvious reasons to choose from but I suspect this is a power grab from some members of our BOT with an interim president not having any say in the matter. More of a reason to name a new president sooner rather than later. Re signing Coach Fleming may have been an unpopular move but I have to believe there is more to it than that. The OTH highlights the accomplishments under TK and I think they far outweigh the negatives attached to a struggling Lady Bonnies basketball program. Mens BB hasn't seen this much success since the 70's so you can't point the finger at that. I am sure it will come out in drips and drabs but TK has a solid resume and will land on his feet somewhere else. My guess is Steve Watson probably knows exactly what is going on as he sat in a similar seat a few years back. The move to Loyola has been a good career move and TK will see the same. Has anything developed on the presidential search? That is the key hire going forward. One thing about Bonaventure....you need the right person to run the place. Dr. DePerro will be a lot tougher to replace than TK and needs to happen first.
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Post by efsboca on May 29, 2021 7:38:24 GMT -5
It is unprecedented for Bona, not to renew the contract of its athletics director (technically Gothard Lane resigned), so sure I’m curious why they chose to force Kenney to leave. It makes you wonder why, especially with JP's article listing Kenney's impressive accomplishments. Kenney’s accomplishment “overseeing a men’s basketball program that twice made the NCAA Tournament (2018 and ‘21; and a women’s team that advanced in 2016)” has an obvious omission by failing to mention Jesse Fleming. I do not in any way think it is the only reason Kenney was fired, but I wonder if it was a factor. — With the remodeling of Reilly Center it is apparent Jesse Fleming received a new contract. Main entrance to Bob Lanier Court has Schmidt and Fleming welcoming fans. — Bet you would be surprised to know Kenney made just $2,000 more than Fleming. JPs article has Kenney making $157,207 while Fleming made $155,000. — I was curious to see how Kenney was going to justify Fleming’s new contract. It appears news of Fleming receiving a new contract wasn't going to be made public. — The BV has an article titled “Coach Fleming needs to be evaluated.” Article concludes with following. “Fleming has had more than enough time and needs to go. Bonaventure needs a great men’s and women’s basketball team again. Bonaventure shouldn’t have paid a coach $155,000 in 2019 to win eight basketball games a year." I'm sure there are more than author of The BV article, who was less than supportive of Fleming's new contract. www.thebvnewspaper.com/2021/04/15/coach-fleming-needs-to-be-evaluated/Was speaking with my dad last night, a Siena alum, and we were discussing the Tim Kenney situation. I said I was surprised and then wondered whether the Fleming contract/non firing had something to do with it. Obviously, there were a number of alums wanting him to be re-evaluated and when news broke on this site of his staying and new deal, there were many comment and a lot of surprised people. You would have to think that it may have played a big part in it, unless there was something more insidious that was discovered. But if that was the case I think we would have heard something.
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