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Post by ThomasMerton on Jul 18, 2024 10:38:18 GMT -5
We should be the Friars, that is right to the point
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Post by ohs73 on Jul 18, 2024 11:21:10 GMT -5
We should be the Friars, that is right to the point Sorry, that designation belongs to Providence. |
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Post by Chuck on Jul 18, 2024 12:17:55 GMT -5
Sorry, that designation belongs to Providence. There are 3 teams in just A-10 nicknamed the Rams (Rhode Island, Fordham and VCU). Bona’s connection with the wolf is very weak at best. Legend of St. Francis taming a wolf. Wolf seems like a much better nickname for St. Francis University. Friar would represent St. Bonaventure far better than a wolf. |
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Post by kccgold on Jul 18, 2024 13:01:37 GMT -5
St. Bonaventure High School in California are the 'Seraphs" which is like being the Angels and thats kinda cool. But we have to explain Bonnies enough, we'd still have to explain what Seraphs are to most people and why that's our name, plus we'd be robbing from that high school...
I guess its because Bonaventure was declared a doctor of the Church by the Pope. the "Seraphic Doctor" We could be the St. Bonaventure University Seraphic Doctors, but that's quite the mouthful!
St. Bonaventure Doctors?!?
Bonaventure was also a Cardinal. We could be the St. Bonaventure Cardinals. But then people would wonder why the colors are brown and white and not red! Or we could change them to red, now that would be the "transformational change" we were promised!!!!
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Post by Cassian on Jul 18, 2024 13:12:08 GMT -5
Not sure I’d call this a big announcement 🤷🏻♂️
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Post by DemBonnies on Jul 18, 2024 15:21:06 GMT -5
Sorry, that designation belongs to Providence. There are 3 teams in just A-10 nicknamed the Rams (Rhode Island, Fordham and VCU). Bona’s connection with the wolf is very weak at best. Legend of St. Francis taming a wolf. Wolf seems like a much better nickname for St. Francis University. Friar would represent St. Bonaventure far better than a wolf. Agree with Chuck here...Friars would be excellent...Brown roadies with a white stripe where the Friar's sashes are. For us old timers a Brother Juniper character with a basketball.  |
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Post by skeller6 on Jul 19, 2024 8:36:26 GMT -5
Gubbio was a wolf who was attacking local farmers in Umbria, Assisi and other locals.
Saint Francis decided to confront the wolf. The wolf submitted to the power of our Lord through St. Francis's intercession.
Gubbio the Wolf became the life long companion and protector of St. Francis.
I have no problem with the Wolf, or maybe the Wolfpack. Its all good !
Was never a fan of the "Bonnies", a term invented by the politically correct nun, as an alternate replacement to the "Brown Indians". By the way I still have my Brown Indians gear, and I cherish that gear..........
By the way we never, ever called ourselves the "Bonnies" (I have no clue what that was anyway), we always referred to ourselves as "Bonas" as in "Lets Go Bonas", or the "Brown and White" (which we would sing before every single game), or the "Brown Indians" as in "Go you Indians".
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Post by chrismoses on Jul 19, 2024 8:40:31 GMT -5
Was never a fan of the "Bonnies", a term invented by the politically correct nun, as an alternate replacement to the "Brown Indians". By the way I still have my Brown Indians gear, and I cherish that gear.......... According to a 1970s MBB I am in possession of, when you look at the quick facts of the school, the nickname states "Bonnies" but there is a picture of the Brown Indian logo on the cover of the program. With that said, no, the term was not invented by a nun and is not a new term for SBU. |
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Post by skeller6 on Jul 20, 2024 7:25:08 GMT -5
Was never a fan of the "Bonnies", a term invented by the politically correct nun, as an alternate replacement to the "Brown Indians". By the way I still have my Brown Indians gear, and I cherish that gear.......... According to a 1970s MBB I am in possession of, when you look at the quick facts of the school, the nickname states "Bonnies" but there is a picture of the Brown Indian logo on the cover of the program. With that said, no, the term was not invented by a nun and is not a new term for SBU. That may have been a PR device in the media book for that year........but again we NEVER called our selves "Bonnies"......Never. Bonas, Brown Indians or the Brown and White....NEVER "Bonnies". And the woke nun went so far as to threaten legal action against a local apparel shop in Allegany if they dared sell Brown Indians gear (we ignored her and got our class gear made up with the Brown Indian logo anyway). Long live Gubbio, now the Bona Wolf, so much better than the "Bonnies"!! |
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Post by maplehurst on Jul 20, 2024 7:45:44 GMT -5
Bonnies was used by Don McLean in the 1950's. He never used Indians. The Brown Indian name was quashed by Dr. Wickenheiser early in his tenure. He was from North Dakota and was sensitive to not using Indian names. Best was to research it is to go through issues of the Bona Venture around 1994 and 1995
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Post by BONA82.5 on Jul 20, 2024 9:30:58 GMT -5
According to a 1970s MBB I am in possession of, when you look at the quick facts of the school, the nickname states "Bonnies" but there is a picture of the Brown Indian logo on the cover of the program. With that said, no, the term was not invented by a nun and is not a new term for SBU. That may have been a PR device in the media book for that year........but again we NEVER called our selves "Bonnies"......Never. Bonas, Brown Indians or the Brown and White....NEVER "Bonnies". And the woke nun went so far as to threaten legal action against a local apparel shop in Allegany if they dared sell Brown Indians gear (we ignored her and got our class gear made up with the Brown Indian logo anyway). Long live Gubbio, now the Bona Wolf, so much better than the "Bonnies"!! You just nailed it. The St. Bonaventure GUBBIOS LOVE IT |
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Post by towniegrad on Jul 20, 2024 10:39:03 GMT -5
Actually I think locals Always called them,affectionately, the Bonnie’s, and. The nun…Never had anything to do with it…just as Moses states.
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Post by maplehurst on Jul 20, 2024 10:57:03 GMT -5
The school is often referred to as St. Bonnies. How many time have I been at a tournament and someone asks, where is St. Bonnies? It's quite unique.p
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Post by Sipowicz on Jul 20, 2024 11:48:56 GMT -5
The school is often referred to as St. Bonnies. How many time have I been at a tournament and someone asks, where is St. Bonnies? It's quite unique.p But on the few national televised games with new announcers, how often do you hear:”What’s a Bonnie?” To me, that’s not cool. |
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Post by ceharv on Jul 20, 2024 12:25:26 GMT -5
I go back to the 70’s and my recall is that “Bonnies” was what others called us, particularly when we were on TV and we were called that by journalists reporting on our games and TV broadcasters calling our games, usually on the ECAC Game of the Week on Saturday afternoons, mostly only a couple times each year at best. And people from the school never called ourselves the Bonnies, that was just not done by tradition.
And if by reference to “the nun” anyone is suggesting Sister Margaret was somehow involved in choosing that name, such a suggestion is crazy. Reference to us as the Bonnies preceded her earliest involvement with the school by several decades.
As far as using “the Friars” I’d be all for that if Providence didn’t have a competitive basketball program that was so well established already.
My recall of the end of the Brown Indians also differs from others. As I recall it there was a nationwide movement opposing the use of such names in the 70’s as they usually involved mocking of traditions and culture. I thought school officials, well before Wick was there, approached the leaders of the Seneca Nation and offered to drop the name immediately, but that the then leaders said it wasn’t necessary because they understood the reference was meant as a tribute, but school officials essentially said “OK, we’ll keep using as long as you don’t object and we’ll leave it up to you. Then a decade or so ago, with “the Indians” still in use in Cleveland and “the Redskins” in DC (plus several others I can’t recall any more) another round of objections were raised resulting in the changes by those two franchises and perhaps others and at that time, younger leadership of the Senecas requested we drop the name and reminded school officials of the promise made years before and Bonas was true to its word, which I applaud.
Does anyone else recall that from back in the 70’s? I was on the BV at that time and although I didn’t report on that issue, my recall is that others on the BV staff did. Any current BW readers who are on the BV staff might be able to check the BV archives for stories from the day if they are interested. But that’s my recollection and I am sticking with it.
And while I don’t love “the wolves,” I haven’t heard anything better other then “Friars” but I agree that’s taken for college hoops and should be left to PC.
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