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Post by wgt on Nov 21, 2024 13:23:10 GMT -5
I have been impressed with the # of touches made on each possession with crisp fast passes to players in near constant motion. In spite of our quick ball movement, while players are getting familiar to each other, we have taken good care of the rock (11.2 TOs, #7 in conference). We share the ball well. Even to a fault as I saw against Mansfield. Sometimes we are TOO unselfish, passing up good shots in search of an even better one.
Our quickness, anticipation and length has created lots of steals (#3) and countless tips causing our D to be ranked #3 in pts allowed (61).
As Chuck and others have pointed out we have not shot well. Scoring opportunities are not being converted as well as they should. We are putting up 75.6 ppg but that is #12 in conference. Our FG% is 46% (#9) and TREYs are at a poor .292 (#13).
Rebounding has been a strength (+9.6 margin) mainly because of CHANCE (8.6!).
I believe our offense would do better by taking fewer TREYS. We should not be taking 41% of our shots from deep while only hitting on 29%. NOEL 67% FGs, CHANCE 50% Fgs & Lajae 50% FGs are better options. Things may change but at this point our TREY threats are Lajae (50%) and JONAH (36%).
Our poor performance in the first half against Mansfield may have tempered our assessment of the 2nd half where we dominated in every facet of the game creating the 40-24 finish.
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Post by localfan on Nov 21, 2024 13:30:42 GMT -5
Really not sure if there is much difference in talent between Mansfield and LeMoyne. Maybe 8 or 10 points? LeMoyne beat Mansfield 116-67 this season. So actually there's a 49 point difference between the two teams. |
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Post by Phantom on Nov 21, 2024 14:01:15 GMT -5
It appeared as though Mansfield packed in that 2/3 zone and dared us to shoot those wide open threes. Couldn't take advantage. Expect to see a lot more of it.
Too bad we don't have anyone who could make a 12 foot jump shot either. That was available from inside the high post all night as well. Make a few of those and that opens up low post/ short corner for Brown...
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Post by kccgold on Nov 21, 2024 14:23:06 GMT -5
When they go zone, bring in Hinton
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Post by Phantom on Nov 21, 2024 14:30:29 GMT -5
Even his 2-7 shooting wasn't enough to bring them out of it.
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Post by proudbonnie89 on Nov 21, 2024 15:03:33 GMT -5
Really not sure if there is much difference in talent between Mansfield and LeMoyne. Maybe 8 or 10 points? LeMoyne beat Mansfield 116-67 this season. So actually there's a 49 point difference between the two teams. OOF! Yup, that was Lemoyne's exhibition game. Kind of what I expected yesterday to look like. Maybe more like 99-50 but that 49 point delta feels about right. Surprised that wasn't mentioned anywhere localfan, not even on the broadcast I don't think, good catch! That does make it feel a bit worse actually. Oh well, not a real game but Sunday is. I expect we will be ready to play on Sunday and I expect Bryant will be playing plenty of zone, assuming it fits there scheme and talent. We'll see what Nick Schmidt has up his sleeve for his dad! |
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Post by Chuck on Nov 21, 2024 15:08:19 GMT -5
KCC states “when they go zone, bring in Hinton.” They have been especially against Mansfield where Hinton had 24 minutes of PT (only 4 players had more). Problem is it being negated with Chance and Melvin attempting a combine 44 three pointers this season and both are making just 27.3% of their 3s. When looking at their 3 point stroke last season (Melvin 26.5%, Chance 29.5%) it shouldn’t be a surprise they are struggling from 3s. The surprise for me is Melvin attempting so many 3s (didn’t show this during preseason) but Chance loves shooting 3s (last season and this preseason). Team need other players to lead them in 3 point shooting other than Chance and Melvin. As Chance has proven he is great inside the arc, but 3 point shooting is a weakness that he doesn’t want to admit. www.sports-reference.com/cbb/schools/st-bonaventure/men/2025.html |
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Post by Chuck on Nov 21, 2024 15:20:39 GMT -5
To add to Localfan post, Mansfield is a bad D2 team. They’ve lost 2 games by a combine of 57 points, had an OT loss to a team that is 1-4 (only win was this one against Mansfield) and this is all against D2 opponents. Their biggest loss was by 40 points to D2 Calflin University. Their only victory is a 2 point win over D’Youville. It makes it more worrisome with a bad D2 team making 2/3rds of last night's game competitive. The biggest reason is Bona's struggles with zone. 3 point shooting is a critical weakness for this team. Is it going to get better? gomounties.com/sports/mens-basketball/schedule |
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Post by Phantom on Nov 21, 2024 15:24:05 GMT -5
Better have a Plan B to shooting over the zone. That consistent shooter has not emerged on this team yet
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Post by atlbonnie87 on Nov 21, 2024 15:32:47 GMT -5
End of the day, it wasn’t a good performance and it shows our major weakness against a traditional zone. I’m still ok with it — certainly gives the staff plenty of ammo to dig into this group during video. Teams are going to zone us up and right now, Hinton and Jones appear to be our only prayer at shooting a team out of it.
I think I’m more disappointed with where this team is defensively. I thought we’d be a lot better on that end. I thought Mansfield just flat out made a lot of jumpers, but I still think overall, we’re not where we’re going to need be come A10 play (or even Utah St for that matter).
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Post by pete's mom on Nov 21, 2024 15:55:38 GMT -5
Better have a Plan B to shooting over the zone. That consistent shooter has not emerged on this team yet What else are the Bonnies going to do if opponents pack it in with their zone. Ignoring wide open 3s from the Bonnies. They have to become at least a decent 3 point shooting team to loosen up the zone. This perplexes me. SCHMIDT is supposed to have more plays than Shakespeare but we can't figure out how to beat a zone |
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Post by bigcat on Nov 21, 2024 16:02:08 GMT -5
Totally agree with Alt. Defense was out of sync and didn’t convert as many point off turnovers as you would expect vs a D2 team. Like I said in a previous post, it was a step backward.
Why we would over help on D vs that team is senseless. Pressure your man. Deny the passing lanes. Give up some drives or mid range shots but don’t leave shooters wide open. It’s like a repeat of the last couple years.
Don’t double or help unless a guy is going for 25 or 30 in the first half. We only gave up 8 threes but coach’s goal is 6. And, again, they were D2.
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Post by Phantom on Nov 21, 2024 16:36:03 GMT -5
Outside shooting is certainly one way to beat the zone. But, unless somebody emerges... Right now we better not totally rely on that. Teams are inviting that. Last night we were missing wide open threes. We're going to need to improve big time. I thought ball movement was good, but, gotta have more than crisp perimeter passing. D seemed content allowing them to play catch outside the perimeter. Get the zone moving side to side more, screen the zone. We've got slashers so maybe attack the seams more, collapse the zone by getting the ball to low/high post, continuity offense, send cutters through, beat'm down the floor...Schmidt allegedly has a copious playbook. Hell, anything I know about basketball I learned from the Bona Bandwagon, so who am I?  |
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Post by wgt on Nov 21, 2024 17:53:52 GMT -5
I thought our ball movement was crisp in out of the high post (to DASONTE & others) as well as the perimeter. I see DASONTE, LAJAE, & JONAH hitting the 12' Js we are creating.
Until we shoot better than 29% from beyond the arc zones will be applied.
LAJAE (50%) and JONAH (36%) have emerged as TREY threats. If CHANCE (27%) & MELVIN (27%) come alive from deep opponents will disband zone. They have taken 37% of our TREYS !
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Post by Chuck on Nov 21, 2024 18:31:41 GMT -5
Bona took their offense inside, especially in the 2nd half. It was even enhanced with Mansfield coach deciding to extend his zone around mid point of 2nd half (appears to be a gamble to change momentum of game) which turned out to be a mistake. It only makes sense to pound it inside, especially against a smaller and a lot less athletic team (which is also a bad D2 team).
Bonnies did exactly what exactly Phantom suggested. The result was 3 less three pointers attempted in the 2nd half and outscoring Mansfield by 16. Result is NOT great, especially against this team, who extended their zone allowing more space closer to the basket.
It is going to be a lot more difficult to attack a zone against a D1 team like Bryant, who has size and athleticism. It will become even more difficult it they pack the zone inside (creating less space inside) challenging Bonnies to hit wide open 3 pointers. Watching Get Up this morning, they asked about teams kryptonite. Bonnies kryptonite is facing a packed in zone defense. Hopefully they can turn it around, whether it is attacking the zone or hitting 3s.
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